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The Tea Party movement
« on: October 18, 2010, 12:26:40 PM »
The Tea Party movement is a political movement in the United States that emerged in 2009 through a series of locally and nationally coordinated protests. The protests were partially in response to several Federal laws: the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, and a series of health care reform bills.

The movement has no central leadership but is a loose affiliation of smaller local groups. The movement's primary concerns include, but are not limited to, cutting back the size of government, lowering taxes, reducing wasteful spending, reducing the national debt and federal budget deficit, and adhering to the United States Constitution. Many of the movement's members also speak out on a wide variety of other issues such as illegal immigration.

In 2010 Tea Party endorsed candidates upset establishment Republicans in several primaries, such as Alaska, Delaware, Florida, Nevada and South Carolina, giving a new momentum to the conservative cause in the 2010 elections, and boosting Sarah Palin's visibility. In the fall 2010 elections, the New York Times has identified 129 Republican House candidates with significant Tea Party support, as well as 9 running for the Senate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement
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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 12:53:44 PM »
And was started and is funded by the Koch brothers.  Don't forget about that.




http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oc ... h-brothers

Tea Party movement: Billionaire Koch brothers who helped it grow

Industrialists who own private company with annual revenues of £62bn have channelled millions of dollars to rightwing causes

It likes to present itself as a grassroots insurgency made up of hundreds of local groups intent on toppling the Washington elite.

But the Tea Party movement, which is threatening to cause an upset in next month's midterm elections, would not be where it is today without the backing of that most traditional of US political supporters – Big Oil.


The billionaire brothers who own Koch Industries, a private company with 70,000 employees and annual revenues of $100bn (£62bn), used to joke that they controlled the biggest company nobody had ever heard of.

Not any more. After decades during which their fortune grew exponentially and they channelled millions of dollars to rightwing causes, Charles and David Koch are finally getting noticed for their part in the extraordinary growth of the Tea Party movement.

The two, 74-year-old Charles and David, 70, have invested widely in the outcome of the 2 November elections.

One Koch subsidiary has pumped $1m into the campaign to repeal California's global warming law, according to state records.

The brothers, their wives and employees have also given directly to Republican candidates for Congress and are the sixth-largest donors to the Senate campaign of Tea Party favourite Marco Rubio.

They have also given heavily to the Republican Jim DeMint in South Carolina, according to the Centre for Responsive Politics.

But organisations tracking money in politics say the Kochs' biggest impact in the midterm elections will be from funding and providing logistical support to such groups as Americans for Prosperity (AFP), one of the biggest Tea Party groups.

AFP, in turn, has spun off other organisations such as November is Coming, Hands Off My Healthcare, and the Institute of Liberty, which are buying up television ads and holding rallies across the country in an attempt to defeat Democrats.

US campaign laws make it easy for political interest groups and their corporate backers to hide their spending in elections. "This is a world of shadows," said Taki Oldham, an Australian documentary maker who spent months following Tea Party activists. "In my mind, without a doubt nobody has had more influence on the anti-Obama campaign than the Koch-funded groups."

For the Kochs, who inherited their politics as well as their business from their father, Fred, this has been a long and carefully cultivated project.

But after years in which their support for anti-regulation thinktanks and groups went largely undetected, the sudden visibility of the Kochs' power seems to have taken even the brothers by surprise.

"Five years ago, my brothers Charles and I provided the funds to start Americans for Prosperity," David Koch told AFP's annual Defending the Dream gathering in 2009. "It is beyond my wildest dreams that AFP has grown into this enormous organisation. The American dream of free enterprise and capitalism is alive and well."

Until last summer, most Americans had no idea who the Koch brothers were, and it is very likely that even AFP members did not know they were bankrolled by one of the richest men in corporate America.

But a spate of attention – sparked by a Greenpeace investigation and a profile in the New Yorker – has given the Kochs a degree of notoriety they are finding it difficult to live with.

There was no sign of David Koch at this year's Defending the Dream summit. When the Guardian stopped into the offices of the Charles G Koch charitable foundation, in the suburbs of Washington DC, the receptionist sent the head of the legal department out to talk.

After declaring all conversations off the record, lawyer Brian Menkes said it was normal for the Koch legal team to be involved in routine press inquiries.

"Go to any company in the world and the legal department is involved in media inquiries," he said. "It is standard operating procedure."

For his part, David Koch now seeks to distance himself from the Tea Party. In a rare interview in New York magazine, he said: "I've never been to a Tea Party event. No one representing the Tea Party has ever even approached me."

The extreme sensitivity carries across to the company website, where recent additions tout the brothers' commitment to environmental protections and offer a selection of "Koch facts", an antidote to the unflattering personal and political portraits of the two that have appeared recently.

"This is the outing of the Koch brothers. They didn't want this story told, especially in an election year," said Kert Davies, the research director for Greenpeace who has spent a decade gathering data on the family. "They have never been face forward."

But they do have deep pockets. Koch Industries has expanded from oil refinery to paper towels and Lycra.

The two brothers each own 42% of the company and occupy top-10 positions in the Forbes annual ranking of wealthy Americans, with personal fortunes of $21bn each.

Over the last 20 years, Koch Industries has donated at least $5.9m to political candidates, some 83% of which was set aside for Republican candidates, according to the Centre for Responsive Politics.

Since 1989, Koch Industries has spent more than any other oil and gas company on finding favour in Congress, paying $50m to lobbying firms.

But it is the Kochs' links to a welter of mass mobilisation campaigns opposing Barack Obama that is making the biggest impact. Political monitoring organisations say the Koch-connected Claude R Lambe Charitable Foundation has given $3.1m to Americans for Prosperity.

The Kochs' involvement in anti-government causes goes back to their father, who was a founding member of the virulently anti-communist John Birch Society.


He made his fortune by developing a more efficient refining method and built plants around the world, including 15 in the Soviet Union at the height of Stalin's purges in the early 1930s. He came to despise Stalin and, David Koch told the New Yorker, was "paranoid about communism, let's put it that way".

He worked hard to instil the same beliefs in his four sons. Two of those sons later became estranged from the family, and were eventually bought out of Koch Industries, but for Charles and David, the rightwing free market ideology was their lodestar.

As the CEO of Koch Industries, Charles Koch began supporting free-market thinkers while honing his own ideas in a book called the Science of Liberty.

The brothers did try direct action. In 1980, David Koch ran as a vice-presidential candidate on the libertarian ticket, winning just 1% of the vote.

The episode, Charles Koch has written, persuaded the brothers to refocus their energies. In the 1980s, they founded Citzens for a Sound Economy.

Over the next 20 years, they funnelled around $13m to Citizens for a Sound Economy. In 2004, the organisation split into Americans for Prosperity and FreedomWorks, which is closely tied to the former Republican Congressman Dick Armey and has received no more funding from the Koch family.

Obama's election, and the prospect that the new president would reverse nearly two decades of reduced government oversight of industry, put the Kochs and their footsoldiers in Americans for Prosperity on high alert.

"They were very afraid of the Obama administration and a return to a pro-regulatory environment after the Bush years, and probably ramped it up a bit to make sure nothing new was going to inhibit their business," Davies said.

A day after CNBC's Rick Santelli launched his on-air howl against Obama's mortgage bailout plan, AFP and Freedom Works put up Facebook pages and began organising events around the country. The Tea Party was under way.
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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 01:14:04 PM »
Quote from: "Froderik"
The Tea Party movement is a political movement in the United States that emerged in 2009 through a series of locally and nationally coordinated protests. The protests were partially in response to several Federal laws: the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, and a series of health care reform bills.

The movement has no central leadership but is a loose affiliation of smaller local groups. The movement's primary concerns include, but are not limited to, cutting back the size of government, lowering taxes, reducing wasteful spending, reducing the national debt and federal budget deficit, and adhering to the United States Constitution. Many of the movement's members also speak out on a wide variety of other issues such as illegal immigration.

In 2010 Tea Party endorsed candidates upset establishment Republicans in several primaries, such as Alaska, Delaware, Florida, Nevada and South Carolina, giving a new momentum to the conservative cause in the 2010 elections, and boosting Sarah Palin's visibility. In the fall 2010 elections, the New York Times has identified 129 Republican House candidates with significant Tea Party support, as well as 9 running for the Senate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

I hope they can keep the momentum going.  I am not for it because it is Republican but because it is a grass roots movement.  We need to start getting younger people involved, the average joe's voice needs to be heard.  The present system is a joke and only a small portion of the people even vote anymore.



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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2010, 01:16:15 PM »
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because it is a grass roots movement.


It's not by any stretch of the imagination.  See article above re: Koch brothers.  It's astroturfing at it's best/worst.
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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 01:27:47 PM »
I don't know how grass-roots it is or not, or who started it, but I like it because it bothers people who adhere to one party or another...again.. this is a good sign.
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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 01:43:08 PM »
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Quote from: "Whooter"
because it is a grass roots movement.


It's not by any stretch of the imagination.  See article above re: Koch brothers.  It's astroturfing at it's best/worst.

The "Tea Party Movement" is s imple corporatist political marketing plan.  It was conceived and funded by right-wing Republicans like Dick Armey and the Koch brothers.  It is by no stretch of the imagination "grass roots."  It's corporatist "astro turf" with the "Tea Party Express" funded by Newscorp (Fox News).
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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 01:45:12 PM »
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I don't know how grass-roots it is or not, or who started it, but I like it because it bothers people who adhere to one party or another...again.. this is a good sign.

It's fun for campaigning, but when it comes to actually governing, Tea Partiers are non-starters.  There is no possible way the Tea Party agenda can come to fruition in a pluralistic society.  They're not smart enough or educated enough about civics to realize that anger is not a governing strategy.
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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2010, 01:53:28 PM »
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Quote from: "Froderik"
I don't know how grass-roots it is or not, or who started it, but I like it because it bothers people who adhere to one party or another...again.. this is a good sign.

It's fun for campaigning, but when it comes to actually governing, Tea Partiers are non-starters.  There is no possible way the Tea Party agenda can come to fruition in a pluralistic society.  They're not smart enough or educated enough about civics to realize that anger is not a governing strategy.

Well, that and their spokespeole are nuts!

And the only people it bothers are the Dems.  The Reps love 'em, especially because of the social agenda.
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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2010, 02:05:40 PM »
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Reps love 'em, especially because of the social agenda.

Also, nearly half [of tea party members] think the government should limit Wall Street executive bonuses, according to the nationwide poll which was conducted between March 19 and March 22, 2010.
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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2010, 02:13:02 PM »
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Reps love 'em, especially because of the social agenda.

Also, nearly half [of tea party members] think the government should limit Wall Street executive bonuses, according to the nationwide poll which was conducted between March 19 and March 22, 2010.

I think it is great that some of these people are starting to wake up.  I support just about any movement that stirs up the people resulting in getting more of them involved in the political process.  We haven't had much grass roots movement activity since the 1960's.  The bonuses are so out of proportion that these people should be put in jail.  



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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2010, 02:45:37 PM »
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Reps love 'em, especially because of the social agenda.

Also, nearly half [of tea party members] think the government should limit Wall Street executive bonuses, according to the nationwide poll which was conducted between March 19 and March 22, 2010.

Good!  So do I!
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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2010, 02:48:34 PM »
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 We haven't had much grass roots movement activity since the 1960's.  


And we don't have one in the Tea Party either.
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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2010, 03:07:55 PM »
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 We haven't had much grass roots movement activity since the 1960's.  


And we don't have one in the Tea Party either.

I think the beginnings are there and they are waking up a lot of people to the political corruption presently within the government.  I have read that the tea party is funded by a few billionaires but talk like that is to be expected when people get start to get organized.  Back in the 1960's the hippie movement was thought to be funded and supported by communists lol.

At this point anything is better than the 2 party system we presently have.



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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2010, 03:14:33 PM »
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 We haven't had much grass roots movement activity since the 1960's.  


And we don't have one in the Tea Party either.

I think the beginnings are there and they are waking up a lot of people to the political corruption presently within the government.

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10 years late, after the real criminals have been voted out.
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Re: The Tea Party movement
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2010, 03:37:39 PM »
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Quote from: "Whooter"
 We haven't had much grass roots movement activity since the 1960's.  


And we don't have one in the Tea Party either.

I think the beginnings are there and they are waking up a lot of people to the political corruption presently within the government.

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10 years late, after the real criminals have been voted out.

There are still crooks in office.  Time for them to go.



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