Ridge Creek School - Accreditation

[RobertBruce]

Then by all means John, don't answer the question. You don't have anything of value to add anyway, so again, please don't muck up the conversation. We're interested in the status of RC, not your usual games.

[RobertBruce]

Any word back from SACS or Keith and the gang?

[Anonymous]

I know everyone is chomping at the bit to start finding something wrong with Ridge Creek School.  One error I see here over and over again is the lack of follow through when searching for the truth.  A quick scan of a web site doesn’t constitute a search in my opinion.  I have seen many a profession deemed “working without a license” with their photo posted all over this site when if given a little more effort reveled that these professionals were in fact licensed in almost every case that I followed thru with and investigated.

Before making up your minds and wasting time on a ton of posts Give this a try:

Call   (770) 429-0040 and ask for Elizabeth (Liz) Law at the Georgia office (of SACS) in Kennasaw.  She is very nice and will answer all your questions or get back to you if she doesn’t have the answer at hand.

Web sites are not real time information and you need to understand the time frame of when they complete their updates before making your decision.
This is the same if you are looking to see if a professional is licensed in the state database or if a licensed has expired.  If a professional completes a higher level of training and moves up then he/she would allow their old license to expire and then be relicensed within the new area.  So a non thorough search may show up as a person is working under an “expired license” when this in fact not true.

Hope this save you some time and grief.

THe WHO absolutely said SACS ACCREDITATION.

[TheWho]

I know everyone is chomping at the bit to start finding something wrong with Ridge Creek School.  One error I see here over and over again is the lack of follow through when searching for the truth.  A quick scan of a web site doesn’t constitute a search in my opinion.  I have seen many a profession deemed “working without a license” with their photo posted all over this site when if given a little more effort reveled that these professionals were in fact licensed in almost every case that I followed thru with and investigated.

Before making up your minds and wasting time on a ton of posts Give this a try:

Call   (770) 429-0040 and ask for Elizabeth (Liz) Law at the Georgia office (of SACS) in Kennasaw.  She is very nice and will answer all your questions or get back to you if she doesn’t have the answer at hand.

Web sites are not real time information and you need to understand the time frame of when they complete their updates before making your decision.
This is the same if you are looking to see if a professional is licensed in the state database or if a licensed has expired.  If a professional completes a higher level of training and moves up then he/she would allow their old license to expire and then be relicensed within the new area.  So a non thorough search may show up as a person is working under an “expired license” when this in fact not true.

Hope this save you some time and grief.

THe WHO absolutely said SACS ACCREDITATION.

I read thru it twice and it doesnt say that they were accredited.  Come on, Bruce, you look like a fool.  Thewho was providing the name and person to contact so you could get you facts straight.  A lesson you seem to need to learn over and over again.

Another thing is you should always link to the original just in case there is any question.

[TheWho]

RB just give it up and move on.  Thewho was right.  You should have provided links to support yourself.

[RobertBruce]

It amazes me still that despite a complete and total lack of evidence you still assume I guest post. No basis whatsoever. Yet despite that fact you chide others for holding you accountable or not providing more evidence than you ever do. John, I havent been on here at all today, yet you still somehow continue to not only cheer yourself on, but attack yourself just so you can do so. In the end all you accomplish is ensuring that you look like an idiot.

You're so hung up on this accrededation issue, why don't you email them and post what you find on here. You seem to already know the people over there anyway. That would settle that question, albeit licensure still remains an unanswered and more important question.

[TheWho]

It amazes me still that despite a complete and total lack of evidence you still assume I guest post. No basis whatsoever. Yet despite that fact you chide others for holding you accountable or not providing more evidence than you ever do. John, I havent been on here at all today, yet you still somehow continue to not only cheer yourself on, but attack yourself just so you can do so. In the end all you accomplish is ensuring that you look like an idiot.

You're so hung up on this accrededation issue, why don't you email them and post what you find on here. You seem to already know the people over there anyway. That would settle that question, albeit licensure still remains an unanswered and more important question.

Sorry, been gone all day.  It looks like you have been talking to someone pretending to be me.  If you logged in more often it would be easier to keep track of your own posts.  But back on topic, I posted a link a few times that indicated that Ridge Creek has earned and acquired accreditation despite denials.  If you read the links I provided it would save embarrassment on your end.  I will pull that link up again for you and anyone else that missed it.  Try to read back thru the thread next time.  It may save you some time.

[Anonymous]

It would have been far easier to ask him to call the GAC acknowledging right off that Ridge Creek School was now accredited by GAC.  Instead you stated to call SACS, which infers SACS accreditation.  Can we move on, this is ridiculous.

[TheWho]

It would have been far easier to ask him to call the GAC acknowledging right off that Ridge Creek School was now accredited by GAC.  Instead you stated to call SACS, which infers SACS accreditation.  Can we move on, this is ridiculous.

Your right, guest 9, and maybe I should have done that and appologize if I seemed like I side tracked at all, but if I remember correctly the conversation had gone in the directions of the ORS and SACS (I may be wrong).  So I recommended calling them first before concluding that they were not accredited by them and posted the contact information.  I jumped in at that point because Dysfunction Junction typically makes wide sweeping judgements without first looking at the facts which raises a red flag with me.  This is a hallmark of his that he shared with XXXXXXX (who was an admin here) and Bruce which in my opinion went a long way in discrediting fornits as a source of reliable information.  As an ex employee DJ has such a large axe to grind with HLA that he hasnt been able to move along with his career and it often clouds his judgment,  to the detriment of his own and fornits credibility.

There are countless times where doctors were named to be unlicensed and teachers to outed as unlicensed where I spent a few extra hours investigating to find that they were in fact licensed.  So you just need to be careful with any information from these people especially.  Just ask for a link or back up documentation of some sort before believing the information, is what I would suggest, and also before making up your own mind.

Posters like Jill Ryan for example appears to be willing to call it the way it is and deals with facts in her fight against HLA here on fornits.
Its best to read a little here and get to know the various people posting and what is driving them before you place your trust in what they say.  Then ask yourself:  “Are they seeking the truth or just out to discredit a program or the people running it?”

[RobertBruce]

I'm actually always logged in as it saves me the trouble. You might try it someday. Again though you're confused, look to the comments made by RobertBruce, as those are the only ones I've made regarding this or any other topic in the past year (minus of course the verification guest post from the other week. When are you going to get on that by the way?). If you have questions or comments about those posts, by all means bring them to my attention, otherwise I suggest directing your comments towards the people who actually made them John.  This will save you the trouble of speaking to the wrong person and continuing to look stupid.

Are there any comments you can point to that you know I've made that definitively state what RC is or is not accreditted/licensed as?

[TheWho]

I'm actually always logged in as it saves me the trouble. You might try it someday. Again though you're confused, look to the comments made by RobertBruce, as those are the only ones I've made regarding this or any other topic in the past year (minus of course the verification guest post from the other week. When are you going to get on that by the way?). If you have questions or comments about those posts, by all means bring them to my attention, otherwise I suggest directing your comments towards the people who actually made them John.  This will save you the trouble of speaking to the wrong person and continuing to look stupid.

Are there any comments you can point to that you know I've made that definitively state what RC is or is not accreditted/licensed as?

RB, I Redirected this post in an effort to keep the discussion on topic.

Redirect

[Anonymous]

"There are countless times where doctors were named to be unlicensed and teachers to outed as unlicensed where I spent a few extra hours investigating to find that they were in fact licensed".

 Covering the years prior to and through 2006, HLA adverised licensed counselors and  certified teachers, which was not the case.  As it was only a private school with special purpose, operating under the radar, they got away with it, until we contacted the agencies and forced licensing. Had HLA not advertised "licensed and certified" and as a "Therapeutic School" along with all the complaints over the years, they would still be in business. The State confirmed the majority of teachers were not certified; only Joe Stapp, Buccellato and Chris Allen were licensed counselors.  Later on Chris Grimwood is hired but he cannot be licensed as "Farington Diploma Mill" is not accepted by the State of Georgia.  Dr. Sisk was not a doctor, but that was before our time and Clayton Erickson was no longer an M.D. All facts.. Nothing stated does not have basis and everything I have stated can be backed up by electronic or paper copy.

[TheWho]

"There are countless times where doctors were named to be unlicensed and teachers to outed as unlicensed where I spent a few extra hours investigating to find that they were in fact licensed".

 Covering the years prior to and through 2006, HLA adverised licensed counselors and  certified teachers, which was not the case.  As it was only a private school with special purpose, operating under the radar, they got away with it, until we contacted the agencies and forced licensing. Had HLA not advertised "licensed and certified" and as a "Therapeutic School" along with all the complaints over the years, they would still be in business. The State confirmed the majority of teachers were not certified; only Joe Stapp, Buccellato and Chris Allen were licensed counselors.  Later on Chris Grimwood is hired but he cannot be licensed as "Farington Diploma Mill" is not accepted by the State of Georgia.  Dr. Sisk was not a doctor, but that was before our time and Clayton Erickson was no longer an M.D. All facts.. Nothing stated does not have basis and everything I have stated can be backed up by electronic or paper copy.

I wasnt talking about you, Jill.  This was before your time here on fronits.

[RobertBruce]

He's refering to ASR, actually well after Jill began posting here. ASR was doing (probably thanks to John's good friend, murderer Rudy Bentz) the same thing HLA did. Claiming everyone was certified when across the board when it turned out only a single staff member was actually licensed as they claimed to be, and he was apparently never there. John didnt prove any arguments that day, he just stuck his head in the sand again and denied the truth.

[Anonymous]

It's like Ringley Brothers re-naming themselves Acme Circus Company - it's still the same group of clowns putting on a show.

Ridge Creek School should not be allowed to operate and rip off more parents; but most important is the fact that these kids are NOT getting the help or treatment they require.

The "counselors" and "teachers" are not licensed. You can look this information up on Georgia's web page, which is what we did and subsequently Charles sent out an email to the parents listing all the staffs' qualifications. It was done in response to the fact that we exposed what an absolute sham the place was and is. I suppose this was Bucci's brilliant idea of damage control. The funny part is that the email only served to show we were correct.

In answer to this question: Then ask yourself: “Are they seeking the truth or just out to discredit a program or the people running it?”

The people running the problem LIED to us, thereby discrediting the program and the people running it by THEIR actions. When we sought the truth we were lied to even further. It wasn't until we confronted them with the TRUTH did we realized just how deep and calculated all the lies were. We sought the truth, but we had every right to expect that from the beginning. We're not attempting to discredit the people running the program and/or the program - again, they did that themselves. Our goal is to make sure no other child and parent(s) have to go through the absolute Hell and lies we went through. We want the truth to remain the truth. Bucci had so many years and opportunities to do the right thing, but he thumbed his nose at it everytime. He won't change, he hasn't changed, and he's never once apologized for what he's done. Unless you were there, you wouldn't understand and that's why people on here who have lived through it are so determined not to allow it to continue. Enough is enough.