Well, I like it when people pipe in on things. Ginger/Ursus made a great point and it's possible to keep the name too, it's just a matter of "first impression" and don't want to lose them right off. My doodad was just that... a doodad... open for chop chop switch switch whatever, lol. Don't tell the "Greaseman" though, ok? The name could be AP Alliance... not Anti=Program written out, and just use the letters. We know what it is, so that's good enough. If people ask, tell them. I'm so used to attacking the straight inc/pfc folks and their brutal mentalities that I lost sight of the fragile aspects of parents seeking information about programs. It is comforting to see people with more even keels... even this many years later. :nods: