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« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2007, 06:38:46 AM »
I think its time for me to jump in here, as I graduated discovery academy in 2005. All the staff their thought I was trustworthy, believed in the program, and was 'cured' from depression, which in of itself is a dubious claim. None of that is true of course.

Side Note: The Facility is ran by a Brent R. Hall, and is owned by the ASCENT CORPORTATION which also owns 'RED-CLIFF ASCENT' wilderness program.

I have recently learned that i am a manic-depressive, and I do have a better hold on it now, almost three years later.

I truly hate that place, I faked my recovery from depression. They tried to slow down the rate at which I blowing through their school curriculum. They initially made it so that I had to get a 96% to pass a test or I had to retake it. I will personally testify, in court if need be, that they are actively defrauding the accrediation system. but enough about that.

I graduated as a level 4, the highest 'level', which is a measure of trust, in their 'program' their was only one other 'level 4' after I and a few others, graduated. So I have been Through the program, faked it, and know its ins and outs. Not only that, but because of my level, I was privy to information, discussions, and general musings of some of the staff.
I am a highly intelligent individual, no boasting; IQ, memory, psyche, and standard tests continually back that up. Some of the more intelligent staff, being a majority college students, were eager to engage me in conversation. I learned a lot.

Below is part of an e-mail i sent to someone in regards to their son's plight at discovery academy. I tried to make it as factual as possible. And include much about the inner workings as possible.

Well, I can tell you that it won't actually help the kid if he has actual problems. Most of the kids their when I was their were kids with drug problems or problems with the law. Its essentially a lockdown school, cant leave campus by yourself, alarms on all the doors, daily chores, it a like a step up from a military school. The environment their is controlled by 'therapists' and two people in charge of the boys and girls divisions respectively, Alan is the guys, guys and girls cannot normally interact at the school. You get punished with 'reflection points' which are similer to demerits. A reflection point is an hour of work. kissing a girl is 75 reflection points for example. Running away is 150. Saying a racial slur is 10. Cursing is one.

I particularly found the place unhelpful, and sometimes hostile. The staff is mainly college students. The therapists see students once a week for an hour, some even less than that. There are strong religious (mormon) overtones, all community service benefits the LDS in some way or form. All media, books and tv is regulated, cd players and mp3 players are not allowed, though students can own a radio. You cannot send letters without permission of a therapist, nor call anyone. They reccomend everyone stay their a year or more, it is not a non-profit organization as far as I can tell. While I was there (9 months) I saw three students return with more severe drug problems.

Failing to Follow the rules results in PHYSICAL RESTRAINT

The school there is all self taught they have four teachers a day for the whole school and everyone works independently. Thus students who are depressed about being there or are not good self-teachers tend to fall behind.

I personally graduated from there with a full highschool diploma and completeion of 'the program'. To complete the program you must show yourself progressing in 'therapy' and trustworthy and hardworking their are 12 'levels' representing level of trust and responsibility, level changes happen every two weeks or 4 weeks I cannot remember, and rarely do students progress that fast.

Perhaps I should mention that I absolutly hate discovery academy. If your kid has actual problems their are better places to send him, if he doesn't, the therapists will make one up.

The people who run the place are unreasonable, they are for the most part fundamentalists, and you will hear such rehtoric and beleifs coming from their mouths often.

I have considered filing legal action against them, but I really do not have the time, with college, and the money, being that I am in college.

If he is a good kid, he should not be there, end of story.
If you are looking for a legal challenge, perhaps you take up the actual existence of these schools. Think about this for a second.
If you lock your kid up and never let him go out into the world, social services will come after you. If you physically restrain your child from leaving the house to go outside and play, Social Services will come after you.

Judicial Oversight needs to be in place to represent a neutral third party in determining whether it is proper to send a child to one of these places.

I got a little carried away there, food for thought I guess.
Best of Luck,
Andrew

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Anyway, its 3:38 am where I am so i am off for now.

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« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2007, 06:59:59 AM »
Quote from: ""necolumen""
I think its time for me to jump in here, as I graduated discovery academy in 2005. All the staff their thought I was trustworthy, believed in the program, and was 'cured' from depression, which in of itself is a dubious claim. None of that is true of course.

Side Note: The Facility is ran by a Brent R. Hall, and is owned by the ASCENT CORPORTATION which also owns 'RED-CLIFF ASCENT' wilderness program.

I have recently learned that i am a manic-depressive, and I do have a better hold on it now, almost three years later.

I truly hate that place, I faked my recovery from depression. They tried to slow down the rate at which I blowing through their school curriculum. They initially made it so that I had to get a 96% to pass a test or I had to retake it. I will personally testify, in court if need be, that they are actively defrauding the accrediation system. but enough about that.

I graduated as a level 4, the highest 'level', which is a measure of trust, in their 'program' their was only one other 'level 4' after I and a few others, graduated. So I have been Through the program, faked it, and know its ins and outs. Not only that, but because of my level, I was privy to information, discussions, and general musings of some of the staff.
I am a highly intelligent individual, no boasting; IQ, memory, psyche, and standard tests continually back that up. Some of the more intelligent staff, being a majority college students, were eager to engage me in conversation. I learned a lot.

Below is part of an e-mail i sent to someone in regards to their son's plight at discovery academy. I tried to make it as factual as possible. And include much about the inner workings as possible.

Well, I can tell you that it won't actually help the kid if he has actual problems. Most of the kids their when I was their were kids with drug problems or problems with the law. Its essentially a lockdown school, cant leave campus by yourself, alarms on all the doors, daily chores, it a like a step up from a military school. The environment their is controlled by 'therapists' and two people in charge of the boys and girls divisions respectively, Alan is the guys, guys and girls cannot normally interact at the school. You get punished with 'reflection points' which are similer to demerits. A reflection point is an hour of work. kissing a girl is 75 reflection points for example. Running away is 150. Saying a racial slur is 10. Cursing is one.

I particularly found the place unhelpful, and sometimes hostile. The staff is mainly college students. The therapists see students once a week for an hour, some even less than that. There are strong religious (mormon) overtones, all community service benefits the LDS in some way or form. All media, books and tv is regulated, cd players and mp3 players are not allowed, though students can own a radio. You cannot send letters without permission of a therapist, nor call anyone. They reccomend everyone stay their a year or more, it is not a non-profit organization as far as I can tell. While I was there (9 months) I saw three students return with more severe drug problems.

Failing to Follow the rules results in PHYSICAL RESTRAINT

The school there is all self taught they have four teachers a day for the whole school and everyone works independently. Thus students who are depressed about being there or are not good self-teachers tend to fall behind.

I personally graduated from there with a full highschool diploma and completeion of 'the program'. To complete the program you must show yourself progressing in 'therapy' and trustworthy and hardworking their are 12 'levels' representing level of trust and responsibility, level changes happen every two weeks or 4 weeks I cannot remember, and rarely do students progress that fast.

Perhaps I should mention that I absolutly hate discovery academy. If your kid has actual problems their are better places to send him, if he doesn't, the therapists will make one up.

The people who run the place are unreasonable, they are for the most part fundamentalists, and you will hear such rehtoric and beleifs coming from their mouths often.

I have considered filing legal action against them, but I really do not have the time, with college, and the money, being that I am in college.

If he is a good kid, he should not be there, end of story.
If you are looking for a legal challenge, perhaps you take up the actual existence of these schools. Think about this for a second.
If you lock your kid up and never let him go out into the world, social services will come after you. If you physically restrain your child from leaving the house to go outside and play, Social Services will come after you.

Judicial Oversight needs to be in place to represent a neutral third party in determining whether it is proper to send a child to one of these places.

I got a little carried away there, food for thought I guess.
Best of Luck,
Andrew

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Anyway, its 3:38 am where I am so i am off for now.

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Thank you very much for posting this.
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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2008, 07:15:28 PM »
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 Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject:    

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I was at DA for 1 year and I can look back and say that sending me there was the best decision my parents ever made. I was hooked on drugs and I was struggling with bipolar (but didn't know it) - I was on my way down a road with no positive future. Nothing bad ever happened to me there, I had a wonderful therapist that made me feel good about myself. I did get in trouble on occasion and was punished but never to any extreme or that I didn't deserve.

No having said that, I do not believe that the owners now are the same as when I was there - all this info may not pertain. I was there 1993-1994.
 




This was a very generic post.  I was there when you were, and doubt that anyone from that era could honestly make such statements about Discovery Academy....you obviously knew that the demerit system consisted of students standing, without moving, facing walls for 25 minutes at a time, often for hours daily.  What is your name?  Who was your therapist you rave about?
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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2008, 07:54:52 PM »
Quote from: ""necolumen""
Side Note: The Facility is ran by a Brent R. Hall, and is owned by the ASCENT CORPORTATION which also owns 'RED-CLIFF ASCENT' wilderness program.

I believe they also own Discovery Ranch (emphasis theirs):
    "Learning from the experience of Discovery Academy (Our boarding school that offers
teen residential treatment) and RedCliff Ascent (Our wilderness treatment center), Discovery Ranch is the first troubled teen treatment center in the industry to offer clinically intensive care with the foundation being experiential therapy. Like most wilderness treatment centers, the focus on experiential learning is what sets us apart."
http://www.discoveryranch.net/[/list]
RedCliff Ascent is where Hyde School sends errant types who resist change even through 2-4 (Work Crew), 5:30's, and Outpost.  The student is kept waiting in the Dean's area (a bad place to be anyway), and escorts come to 'cuff the unfortunate one and haul them away.
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« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2008, 02:49:26 AM »
Hello everybody.  I am new here.  I am 27, married, and live in Salt Lake City.  10 days ago my Mom had my 17 year old brother taken into Discovery Academy.  Well, yesterday he and another boy escaped.  I guess the administrator's office door was broken by a different boy, so my brother went in the office, shut the broken door behind him, and walked right out the door in the office to the outside world.  He made his way to my house, and told me of all the REAL things that go on there: mold in the kitchen areas and prep areas, uncooked meat served and when the kids get sick they say its the flu going around, out of the 6 boys in his sleeping room 2 have bronchitis and 1 has nemonia and they refuse to take them to the doctor or give them any medicine, the staff calls all the boys "Homo" or "Fag" regularly, they refuse to let my brother read the Bible, the other boy who broke out with my brother broke his arm at an activity in there and they did take him to the doctor but 2 weeks later when his hand was blue because the cast was restricting the blood they refused to take him back and he ended up having to bash the cast against the fireplace stones to break the cast off for relief. 

My brother is now back at D.A., and I'm freaking out because even though I sent my Mom links to this forum and links about lawsuits and complaints, she refuses to accept the truth, and becomes more brainwashed by the minute as to how good D.A. is.

I just need some relief.  There is absolutely NOTHING I can do, as my Mom is parent/guardian, and she refuses to hear/see the truth of D.A.  I don't know what to do, and am sick worrying about my brother's safety and well-being.  What can I do to get him out?  I showed up to D.A. today, unannounced, to tour the place to try to verify anything of what my brother described.  However, they of course denied me to see any of the facilities.  I'm worried as ever, if any one knows anything I can do, or has some comfort they can impart, it's MUCH needed and appreciated!!!
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« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2008, 02:51:08 AM »
Hello everybody.  I am new here.  I am 27, married, and live in Salt Lake City.  10 days ago my Mom had my 17 year old brother taken into Discovery Academy.  Well, yesterday he and another boy escaped.  I guess the administrator's office door was broken by a different boy, so my brother went in the office, shut the broken door behind him, and walked right out the door in the office to the outside world.  He made his way to my house, and told me of all the REAL things that go on there: mold in the kitchen areas and prep areas, uncooked meat served and when the kids get sick they say its the flu going around, out of the 6 boys in his sleeping room 2 have bronchitis and 1 has nemonia and they refuse to take them to the doctor or give them any medicine, the staff calls all the boys "Homo" or "Fag" regularly, they refuse to let my brother read the Bible, the other boy who broke out with my brother broke his arm at an activity in there and they did take him to the doctor but 2 weeks later when his hand was blue because the cast was restricting the blood they refused to take him back and he ended up having to bash the cast against the fireplace stones to break the cast off for relief.

My brother is now back at D.A., and I'm freaking out because even though I sent my Mom links to this forum and links about lawsuits and complaints, she refuses to accept the truth, and becomes more brainwashed by the minute as to how good D.A. is.

I just need some relief.  There is absolutely NOTHING I can do, as my Mom is parent/guardian, and she refuses to hear/see the truth of D.A.  I don't know what to do, and am sick worrying about my brother's safety and well-being.  What can I do to get him out?  I showed up to D.A. today, unannounced, to tour the place to try to verify anything of what my brother described.  However, they of course denied me to see any of the facilities.  I'm worried as ever, if any one knows anything I can do, or has some comfort they can impart, it's MUCH needed and appreciated!!!
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« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2008, 04:29:06 AM »
There is only one way - emancipation.

Unfortunately you missed one chance. You should have got his signature, when he was out on the run.

There is a link from a referral organization about another case where the family got a girl out of a terrible lockdown.

Contact a lawyer. Get the papers drafted and find a way to get his signature. Then he has to go to court and the mother also. It is a chance and it is buying time. When he is 18 and hopefully still alive by this process of delaying the mis-treatment the problem solves itself.

It is not fun to file a suit against your own family, but we are talking about the life of your brother.

Good luck!
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« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2008, 04:50:47 AM »
However I came to think about some other options:

It is very recent that he have been kidnapped, so he still most have a lot of friends, who remember him at his old school. You may team up with them, because this evil spread with gossip among the parents. If one can evade the responsibility of parenting, soon other of his friends could follow his path.

What can they do?

First they can organize a preaceful protest. The facility is located near a public road, so it should be legal to protest outside the school in the weekends.

Beside protesting they can work on this draft to a poster, which they can distribuate in the school. No student in his local school should be without knowledge that a co-student have been locked up without trial.

If you choose to protest outside the facility, please remember the media. Write to newspapers and TV-stations. Explain to them that you are protesting against him being detained because:

1) He has not been convicted in court
2) His visitation rights is worse than if he had been placed in juvies.
3) His status is equal to the status of terrorists detained on the base in Cuba - he does not know for how long he is detained, he has not the basic rights of a prisoner, he does even know what his crime is.
4) Mention all the things that has been in the media about the facility. The rape etc.

It seems a lot to involve other people in a family matter, but the only thing these facilies fear are headlines.
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« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2008, 11:59:52 AM »
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« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2008, 05:28:37 PM »
I'm going to expand out the IsacCorp links, for what it's worth...

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Employee Pleads Guilty to Attempted Rape at Discovery Academy
Daily Herald, Utah
October 9, 2002

SENTENCING: A mental health worker who had sex with a 16-year-old female patient was sentenced Wednesday to a year in jail.

Orem resident Joseph J. Butler, 26, pleaded guilty July 25 to attempted rape, a second-degree felony, and making a written false statement, a class-A misdemeanor. A plea bargain reduced the original charge of first-degree felony rape.

Fourth District Judge Gary Stott ordered Butler taken into custody immediately. He said Butler could have work-release privileges after serving 180 days but also must enter the jail's sex offender therapy program and register with the state as a sex offender.

Butler had sex with the patient in the kitchen of the Discovery Academy, a private mental health clinic in Provo, said Sherry Ragan, chief of the criminal division in the Utah County Attorney's Office. The girl had gone to the kitchen for a drink.

http://www.heraldextra.com/content/view/53188/4/
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Re: Discovery Academy - Provo, UT
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2008, 05:40:42 PM »
Breaking the chains isn't easy
Keeping teens in line can rattle any family


Clive McFarlane
Worcester Telegram & Gazette
March 29, 2006

So what do you do when you think your teenager is slipping away -- skipping school, hanging with the wrong crowd, experimenting with illegal substances, falling further and further behind academically, and paying less and less attention to you?

For one Blackstone mother, the answer, when she caught her 15-year-old cutting class, was to buy a chain and two padlocks and shackle the daughter's ankles to keep track of her.

When the two went outside the house, the girl was shackled to the mother's wrist. At least that is how the police found them after making a routine traffic stop recently.

The Department of Social Services is looking into it, and who knows, if the parent's tactic passes muster, padlocks and chains will become the next can't-miss investment for those looking to corral troubled teenagers.

At the moment, of course, many parents and guardians are turning to the booming for-profit boot camps and behavior modification programs that have sprung up in this country and around the globe.

These programs, euphemistically called therapeutic boarding schools, wilderness programs and residential treatment centers, can cost from $2,000 to $8,000 a month. But what is cost when you are trying to save a kid's life?

A year ago, Paula Bryant, a Shrewsbury resident, returned home to find that her 16-year-old son had been sent away by his uncle, who had custody of the young man, to the Red Cliffs ASCENT School, a boot camp in Utah, and later to the Discovery Academy, a clinical boarding school and wilderness program, also in Utah.

Among other things, the Discovery Academy sells parents and guardians on its higher-than-the-national-average SAT scores, and an equine-assisted therapy program that uses "the principles of natural horsemanship as a pattern for productive personal relationships."

Ms. Bryant, a single parent, had given up custody of her son to his uncle after the young man began having difficulties in school.

She had raised her son and his older sister mostly as a single parent. Her husband died when her son was 5 years old and her daughter was 7.

She guided her children through the early years, and her photo album shows mostly happy times: the son doing wheelies on his bike, the daughter excelling in tennis, both children in baseball and skiing poses.

Her son began struggling academically, and after being diagnosed with what she termed a "mild" learning disability, he was transferred into a program for special needs students during his middle school years. She pulled him out of the program because "he did not belong there."

As the years went on, her son began skipping school, getting suspended, sleeping late, not showing up for tutoring sessions and hanging with the wrong crowd.

Her brother had been asking for custody of the boy for a couple of years, and in April 2005, she relented, believing, she said, that her son would be placed in a school closer to home and that she would have full visitation rights.

It took her 30 days to learn the whereabouts of her son. She has seen him only twice since, and has not heard from him in the past four months.

The boy's therapist at the Discovery Academy has recommended that he be separated from the influences that created the behavior and academic problems, and he is allowed visits from family members only by arrangement as a reward.

The uncle did not want to talk in depth about the issue, but he assured me that he had done the necessary research on the school, and believes his nephew is benefiting from the program.

He noted that while his nephew entered the program with an eighth-grade education and was flunking every course, he has since completed ninth grade, is scheduled to complete the 10th grade and carries a B+ average.

It is hard to think that a man who, to date, has spent some $77,000 on his nephew's programs in Utah would not have the young man's best interest at heart.

But that is exactly what the mother thinks, and she is trying to reclaim custody of her son.

She has been asked to appoint a guardian ad litem, someone to assist the court in determining the circumstances of the case. Ms. Bryant would like to, but she is finding the cost somewhat steep, $2,500 for the first 12-1/2 hours, $200 per hour after that.

So she is doing the next best thing, talking anyone who will listen, showing her photo album of the kids, and displaying a mountain of clippings, some of which allege abuses at the Discovery Academy, some decrying boot camps and lock-down facilities as not being in the best interest of troubled teenagers.

"It is extreme to put him in Utah, to cut him off from his mother," she said. "He did not have a father, and was going through the typical adolescent stage. These behavior modification programs are dangerous. He has done nothing to warrant this drastic move."

If nothing else, Ms. Bryant's story put the Blackstone mother's padlocks and chains in a whole different light.

Contact Clive McFarlane by e-mail at cmcfarlane@telegram.com.
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Re: Discovery Academy - Provo, UT
« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2008, 05:48:31 PM »
Mother sues school, says son was assaulted
By Laura Hancock
Deseret Morning News
September 3, 2006

PROVO — A mother of a former student of a boarding school for troubled youth is suing the school, claiming her son was sexually assaulted by other students.

The mother, from Aliso Viejo, Calif., seeks at least $200,000 in damages against the Discovery Academy, 105 N. 500 West, in Provo, and the parents of students identified as John and Jane Does 1-10, according to the suit filed Aug. 14 in 4th District Court.

Gregory Sanders, the attorney representing the school, said he barely was served with lawsuit papers, but he contested the allegations.

"I'm saying an assault didn't happen," he said. "What the position of the Discovery Academy is, it was horseplay among several youth and there was no sexual assault."

The boy was a minor on May 8, 2005, when two students jumped on him and physically restrained him while another student abused him with a broomstick, the suit states.

The boy was supposed to be under 24-hour supervision. The staff person responsible for monitoring him was outside the room talking on a cell phone, the suit states.

The boy did not tell school officials about the assault for two days and after school officials learned about it, they called his mother and took the boy to Utah Valley Regional Medical Center for an exam and treatment, the suit says.

After the boy returned to the school, he was placed in the same area with the students he claims assaulted him. The students asked him to not cooperate with prosecutors, the suit says.

The incident is being investigated by police, the suit says, but the Deseret Morning News was unable to confirm Friday whether Provo police were working on the case.

E-mail: lhancock@desnews.com
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