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Offline Deborah

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« on: June 26, 2006, 11:34:00 PM »
THE MARATHON WORKSHOP
(and its value as a counseling tool in emotional growth schools)
by: Linda Shaffer, Ed. Consultant
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All emotional growth schools are not alike! In their counseling tools, nineteen among the more well-known schools use a tool the others do not, the Interactive or Marathon-Like Workshop.

In most emotional growth schools it is standard practice to utilize the group session process 2 to 3 times a week with feedback among peers as a major counseling tool ? all guided by the staff facilitators. Individual counseling also is implemented on a regular basis with an assigned therapist. The more informal version of this style of counseling is the ride in the pick-up truck or the walk down to the pond or the farm.

Not every school, however, utilizes the Interactive or Marathon-Like Workshop. I find in assisting families that some are open to this counseling style for their children and for themselves (in the parent workshops). And, some prefer to participate only in the more private one on one family counseling sessions a school may offer.

Those schools who Do Use these workshops are: Cascade School, Whitmore, CA; Mount Bachelor Academy, Prineville, OR; Swift River Academy, Cummington, MA; Hidden Lake Academy, Dahlonega, GA; Crater Lake School, Sprague River, OR; CEDU Schools, CA and ID; Spring Ridge Academy, Spring Valley, AZ Cross Creek Manor, LaVerkin, UT; Paradise Cove, Apia, W. Samoa; Tranquility Bay, Mandeville, Jamaica; Spring Creek Lodge, Thompson Falls, MT; Copper Canyon Academy, Camp Verde, AZ And for the over 18 year old students ? Northstar, Bend, OR and Benchmark, Redding, CA

Two other schools considering implementing the Interactive Workshop are Aspen Ranch in Loa, Utah and Montana Academy in Marion, Montana.

Various Components of these interactive workshops include psychodrama, role playing, dads, bioenergetics, creative visualization exercises, supportive music, and various types of ?stretch? exercises to take one outside one?s comfort zone.

Students in the interactive workshop often are excited about them because they indicate Points Of Passage within their school and their goal of getting ?to the top of the mountain? and completing all the workshops.

Where did these workshops come from? From creative minds. They came from often controversial influences and beginnings ? Synanon, Lifespring, est, ? out of the ?60?s ? and from many of the earliest creative innovators in the mental health field. Through years of evolution, and years of individual creativity in adapting these workshops to adolescents, came ?workshops? and ?seminars?. I see them, if designed with care and sensitivity to the individual, as benefiting anyone ? but, especially the frightened and refusing child, the counseling savvy/issue dodging child who knows what to say, and the intellectual child who tries at all costs to not touch upon feelings.

Training for the originators of today?s workshops often involved participation themselves in some earlier workshops in Their Own Growth Process and, thus, redesigning these workshops for their own schools. Some have established companies that offer various versions of these workshops today for Corporate America and also design special programs for emotional growth schools.

I would suggest the spread of these workshops in the emotional growth school setting says something about the insights and results for participants. And after all, isn?t that what it?s all about - Results Education, both academic and emotional.

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2006, 12:35:00 AM »
Deb, just whats the point of posting that textual abortion?

And one wonders just what means you 'need' an "emotional growth school" or if they think everyone needs that or if its an option for 'healthy, normal people'.

But whatever... you do (or at least should) know by now what kind of a crock and how abusive and dangerous those seminars are.

So, again, why did you post that?  :question:
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2006, 08:36:00 AM »
It's an industry essay which lists the programs that are known to use Marathon Workshops and confirms the workshops are based on est/ lifespring. Many parents, whose kids have already been through a program, don't know that, or deny it. I'd be curious to know if any of these programs disclose this in their literature, or prior to enrollment. How many parents have researched and understand the experimental techniques they and their children will be subjected to? I'm guessing few, if any.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2006, 08:39:00 AM »
Uh- it's 10 years old.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2006, 08:51:00 AM »
Your point being?
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2006, 10:22:00 AM »
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Various Components of these interactive workshops include psychodrama, role playing, dads (sic), bioenergetics, creative visualization exercises, supportive music, and various types of ?stretch? exercises to take one outside one?s comfort zone.


Well, there it is in plain English.  Each item listed in the techniques above is garbage.  These techniques have zero therapeutic value.

Notice the article is written by an Ed Con and she's in way over her head discussing this dangerous technique.

Basically, the entire article can be dismissed as bunk pop-psyche babble.
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2006, 01:11:00 PM »
They have zero therapeutic value, but some of them have a great deal of "value" in coercive persuasion---that is, disorienting someone mentally and emotionally so that they can be manipulated temporarily and usually harmfully.

"Coercive persuasion" is a more precise term for the various degrees of brainwashing as practiced by governments, cults, and high-pressure sales organizations--usually MLM types.

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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2006, 11:47:00 PM »
Yes, we were informed about the 4 lifesteps that are followed up by family resolutions before admission. We are told exactly what excercises are done, and told by both the therapist and the student afterwards how it went, Our son's TBS has been changing the context and tone of their lifesteps. AFter much research on their end, they are changing the  old emotional tear-down that is followed by a self-esteem buildup, to a more positive approach. This is new within the last few months. I can only speak for our son's TBS. The program IS looking outside the box and improving these lifesteps. Many kids actually like them and for some it marks a turning point in their therapy. I have seen a drastic turnaround after the last one for our son. Again, perhaps the ones that were done in the past were humiliating and degrading. But some schools are revisiting these programs and improving them
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2006, 01:04:00 AM »
Riiiiiiight.

What program is this, again?
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2006, 01:14:00 AM »
I can't believe you KNEW what they were doing and still sent our son off to one of these places.  Disgusting :eek:
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2006, 05:21:00 AM »
Three Springs Way GooKin and Milk Gargling Death,

         I want to thank you for stating your opinions, calmly and rationally. In some ways, you MAY be right about the methods used. As for our program, great strides have been made to improve upon the system that was in place when you were sent, several years ago. I do understand where you are coming from.

     I want you to understand where we were coming from, as our son is set to graduate in less than two months. You claim that Chinese water torture and other methods are inhumane. We agree on this point. But jail, IMO, would be far worse. SOME of these programs are run by loving caring individuals (can't speak for the parent companies who are profiting) It worked for us, and I can tell you that it was a decision of last resort. Was it the best decision- only time will tell. I really do appreciate your intent and thank you for not jumping all over me with vulgar language etc. Your mission is an admirable one. Perhaps the focus should concentrate more on trying to reform the system. To perhaps make these programs more like boarding schools with "program parents", the NA/AA groups fail miserably with adolescents. I would like to see stronger support for these kids BEFORE they get to the point where staying at home is no longer an option. Contrary to popular belief, I do think that we can both educate each other. Thanks for hearing me out.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2006, 05:51:00 AM »
I am with 3 springs on the abolition of the industry. i dont see how it can be done though! Therefore i would lobby for strict enforceable regulations whixh limit the power of the places to do bad shit. That and strong education campaigns which show caring parents how misguided they are. As for the parents and step parents who are just selfish Arses who knows. A good hard kick in the teeth perhaps
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2006, 07:15:00 AM »
I wholeheartedly agree that there are a thousand better models for deling with troubled kids. i also question how "troubled" many kids who end up at these vile places are when they are sent. I am sure that there are also many ways to get around the child protection laws but i also think that this is because they are not enforced adequately. I would also ban "levels" kind of systems because of the possibility or retribution of whistel blowers. Not to mention insane cult like group therapy sesions.

unfortunately though i can not see how you can get the programmes banned though in any real way and therefore dont think it is workable. How would you actually go about it three springs?
to me a serious attempt at reform at least gives some of these kids a fighting chance.
So at least the poor things are not dying because of a flu like the kid in the prevoius post! If those in charge of that boy were in jail for criminal negligence and manslaughter because the legal system took seriously what happened i am sure it would send a wake up call to their colleagues.
To think- that kid ended up essentially getting the death penalty for a stupid boyhood prank. for stealing a damn golf buggy. The injustice of it makes me weep with anger!
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2006, 09:34:00 AM »
***AFter much research on their end, they are changing the old emotional tear-down that is followed by a self-esteem buildup, to a more positive approach.

Lifesteps sounds like ASR?

Are you willing to elaborate? Specifically, I'd like for you to list each old technique and how it has been changed.

How exactly did they inform parents that they were doing away with the old "tear them down" techniques?

Did they cite any research showing it to be negative, or how did they decide, that after two -
three decades, it probably wasn't a good idea?

Did they cite any research to support the "new" technique? Or is it another experimental approach?

I personally feel that kids have been guinea pigs in this social experiment for too long. If they keep "improving" it will become obvious that the place to deal with family difficulty is at home.

And here we go again, "Some" programs are revisiting these techniques and changing them? Which ones? How many programs are you keeping tabs on?

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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2006, 05:54:00 PM »
yes but how in any practical sense would you get rid of programmes?
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