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« Reply #90 on: June 09, 2005, 04:16:00 PM »
hey anon, congrats on getting out. Must of been great!  :grin:
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« Reply #91 on: June 09, 2005, 04:21:00 PM »
....so I'll say it again---God bless those Teenage Freedom Fighters who courageously rioted at Ivy Ridge!  Truly a great example to us all.

Oh, and to the anon. program parent who "had no idea"--you stupid cunt!  You put your kid in a teen torture facility based on the propaganda/sales pitch they gave you, now you try to act blameless "I had no idea....".  Fuck you.
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« Reply #92 on: June 10, 2005, 01:41:00 AM »
Hi it's me again the story is not that big. We all did that becauze we were sick of adults playing with us like idiots. For example when Dustin (Kava) received his exit plan it said that he has to graduate high school there so he got about 2,5 credits left and one of the shift supervisors Randy Garvy told him that he can't test for no reason so me and Dustin just flipped. That just one of the rediculas stories if you want me to write more about there just tell me ok?
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« Reply #93 on: June 10, 2005, 04:26:00 AM »
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On 2005-06-09 22:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

"... if you want me to write more about there just tell me ok?"

Please do.  Tell us everything there is to tell.
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« Reply #94 on: June 10, 2005, 12:48:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-02 15:26:00, Anonymous wrote:


"Not nice.... Give her a break. Most parents don't know what's really going on. They are usually good parents who really want to help their kids.  "




Ignorance, stupidity, and meek (milquetoast) adherance to the programs bullshit rules and lack of communication between parent and child, and then walking into seminars and meekly accepting more bullshit like a stupid fuck and then come out all arrogant and pulling the program line because they get what they are now told to want, total control, IS THEIR FAULT!



Being a 'scared little wabbit' isnt an excuse!



The few people with brains who understand what freedom really entails in America? and realize how bullshit it is that they cant talk to their kids, its too secretive, and more setup to condition and break down than to treat anything, and act accordingly, are the good parents. Those who blindly follow and let themselves fall into those stupid psycho cryfests that Gilcrease panders off after ripping off from lifespring, are not!



Am I bitter? Oh yeah. But the lack of sugar coating I use to tell it to the parents is nothing compared to the torment their own kids faced.

War is God?s way of teaching Americans geography.

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Well, I disagree with you.

There are some really stupid people in the world and it's not their fault.  In some sense, it's the fault of the rest of us for not putting safeguards in place to identify them and keep them from, in their stupidity, doing harm to others.

Stupidity is not a character flaw.  I suppose it makes the most sense to think of it as a disability.  *Some* of these parents are mentally incompetent to manage their children's affairs and the kids needed a guardian ad litem.

We in society did not identify that problem ahead of time and protect those kids.  We're *not* stupid--so what's *our* excuse?

Some of those parents were not stupid but were simply defrauded and incorrectly believed they were protected by the ordinary consumer protection safeguards that apply in almost every other similar magnitude of endeavor in our country.

We have strong laws to protect against cruelty to animals, including when those animals are in some sort of facility.

What reasonable parent would imagine that there weren't simlar strong laws to protect against cruelty to children, or malpractice upon children, or unethical mental health procedures upon children?

I certainly didn't know and wouldn't have guessed that this could happen in America until it *did* happen to a member of the SF Fen Community, who, as part of membership in that community, had a number of responsible adults who knew her very well and knew her placement was totally and completely inappropriate.

When she was rendered incommunicado, I went digging.  But, whether all this information was easy or hard to find, and whether it was easy or hard to verify or assess the credibility of it---well, I can't judge that.  I can't judge that because I know I'm unusually good at researching and digging out info.  Not bragging, just fact.

So I found out, and I was shocked.

But most parents don't know, and have no reason to even suspect that no effective regulatory framework exists to protect them from being defrauded and their children harmed by con-men who just want their money--and enjoy the absolute control over the kids, too.

There have always been people who are easily conned---easy marks.  There always will be such people.  That's why our society seeks to protect those people from themselves, as much as possible, with regulation and consumer protection legislation.

Being an easy mark is a tragedy, not a character flaw.

Society fights each latest con game by passing or enforcing consumer protection laws, and by advertising the existence of the con, and its warning signs, to make it less likely the easy marks will fall for it.

The parents who are easy marks can't help it.  We can blame them all day long and it won't do a damned bit of good.

The only thing that will do any good is to publicize the con and its warning signs, and to put in place the political solutions.

That means not only legislation, but ensuring enforcement.  The only way to control politicians is with the old activists' adage: they'll either see the light, or they'll feel the heat.

We need an organized, large advocacy group that can work on both fronts of publicity and government activism.

It's no use blaming easy marks for being easy marks---we're always going to have them.  The best we can do is try to reduce the risk of them harming themselves or others.

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« Reply #95 on: June 10, 2005, 01:12:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-09 22:41:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Hi it's me again the story is not that big. We all did that becauze we were sick of adults playing with us like idiots. For example when Dustin (Kava) received his exit plan it said that he has to graduate high school there so he got about 2,5 credits left and one of the shift supervisors Randy Garvy told him that he can't test for no reason so me and Dustin just flipped. That just one of the rediculas stories if you want me to write more about there just tell me ok?"


I answered one of your other posts but I can't find it now. In a hurry today. Could you please fill us in on the expelled kids? I'm guessing you're home and safe. What about the rest? Do you know what happened to them? Did they land up in Jamaica or Cosa Rica? Did you go to jail? If so, how was it compared to the Program?

These are some of the things prospective parents need to know about ahead of time.

Thanks,

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« Reply #96 on: June 10, 2005, 01:25:00 PM »
They will do and say just about anything to KEEP kids in the program. To prevent him from testing was just a manipulative tactic that is often used to show parents that the child is not ready to go home. They will also lie. Of course they try to convince parents that their children are manipulative and that they will do just about anything to sabatage their program.  They really don't tell parents what exactly the program includes - like prolonged isolation, take downs and hold downs and druggings.
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« Reply #97 on: June 10, 2005, 02:18:00 PM »
so now you are telling us that they used drugs on you, that is too funny what else do you have for us!!!
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« Reply #98 on: June 10, 2005, 02:49:00 PM »
I have heard from other students that the program would dope up the kids. One girl from Dundee discribed little white pills that made her walk into walls.
Another confirmed it and further claimed it was morphine.
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« Reply #99 on: June 10, 2005, 04:05:00 PM »
They do use drugs to control teens. For chemical restraints they use a horse dose of either Haldol or Thorazine - both have dozens of horrific side effects. They also like to put most kids on Seroquel - which is used for truly psychotic people.  It's the drug of choice for schitzophrenia - anyway - they do use drugs to control kids and to punish them.  

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« Reply #100 on: June 11, 2005, 03:55:00 PM »
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution
inevitable."--JFK
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« Reply #101 on: June 11, 2005, 03:56:00 PM »
You don't have a peaceful revolution. You don't have a turn-the-other-cheek revolution. There's no such thing as a nonviolent revolution. Revolution is bloody. Revolution is hostile. Revolution knows no compromise. Revolution overturns and destroys everything that gets in its way.
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« Reply #102 on: June 12, 2005, 10:14:00 AM »
Okay adout the drug thing, they put me on alot of drug they call them "anty-deppresing pills" but we all know what it is. Some terrible stuff happened there i personally saw in front of my eyes Mr. Lucas Smith punching a kid named Zavier Etheredge. So exactly after the riot all of the "expelled" kids were sleeping in "Intervention" and Mr. Lucas droped water on us in the middle of the night so Zavier spit at the wall and Mr. Lucas literarly JUMPED on him and started punching him in the chest. Then One other kid i forgot his name spit out of the window and Mr. Lucas jumped on him too "He thought that the kid wanted to run". One other time me and Ryan Wose started to scream when a parent came on a parent tour and after that Mr. George Tulip, Mr. Jaseon Finlison and Mr. Eric Brassoit came and jumped on us in the "no camera room". Yes they have a special room with no cameras it's right next to Intervention.
If someone want's some more information write me on my e-mail(bgmedia_org@yahoo.com) (that's my site's e-mail don't worry i'm not a reporter.but those bastards close my site (too much illegal stuff)hihihihi
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« Reply #103 on: June 19, 2005, 01:19:00 AM »
bill to end institutionalized child abuse
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http://www.petitiononline.com/hr1738/petition.html
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