just to fill you in,I've visited there once announced, and later 30 minutes unannounced. Both times were good, nothing unusual going on, and seems like a very well organized place. My point is, you sound like another extremist, who has never been there, who sits around on forums offering your advise, when in reality your credibility is zero. If you have a true purpose of your post, why don't you get off your dead butt and go see. Talk on this forum is cheap, from extremist who have lots of time on their hands, and really demean the forum. I think programs like this, yes, very diciplined, are a good approach to some youths. The diciplined received is a result of the choice the student decided to make, and knew of the consequence. Yeah, it can be rough, but I don't think its brain washing or abuse. If you think about it in reality, when you make really bad choices, you pay the consequence as well. If you murder someone, you probably won't be sitting there on you butt explaining your view of the world, you'll be in the pen. Some kids need a wake up call, and this is a good method to get them on the right track. What hasn't worked in the past, perhaps fault of parent or kid, no longer matters. The outlined methods of the program is proven to work to over 250 graduated students, only of which you have a couple complain and post anomyously. Do the math. Might not be your method, but then again, your preaching your views on boards like this. Why don't you go see for yourself instead, then you'd KNOW what your talking about, instead of just talking. I'd be interested to know your philosophy after that. The mom's and people that post here have pulled their kids out early, regret it, and use this forum as an avenue to blame someone else for their problems. The kid probably learned that as well from them, thats why they went there, and the parent couldnt deal with it and let the program work. I have yet to see any post from a parent who's kid graduated from the program, that regretted it. Not rocket science, is it?
