Ajax - I totally agree with you that the American media is just not honest - middle Americans doesn't ask the questions( well some do ) or demand of the media to investigate or demand that it reports a serious crime. The know nothing American media is it scared of telling the truth- - does money tell it what it can and cannot report -( Adelson tries to buy a Las Vegas newspaper? ) Or is it “say it isn't so” the American Government.
http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/index.php?topic=44316.msg427701#msg427701 I recently questioned politely an Editor why the complete, whole story of the TTI (abusive) industry isn't reported since it so very easy to find on the internet. I was told because the incident(s) of abuse in this story for example - are local, indeed I said as one reads the above article of alleged child abuse at a ( RTC) teen boarding school, in Yoncalla, Oregon. by the Statesman Journal-
And when one looks at the more recently sanitized version of local reporting very different, below same place different paper the Register Guard - a few weeks apart and this was what that paper reported:
http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/33929478-75/oregon-human-services-department-threatens-license-of-yoncalla-teen-boarding-school.html.cspOregon Human Services Department threatens license of Yoncalla teen boarding school
I asked as to why the greater story of the TTI is not reported - it is huge it might be one of the biggest crime stories ever- as this industry continues to nationally operate under large corporations , conglomerates of the troubled teen industry, for example UHS, the answer apparently it is not local.
Then I asked why did you send my letter that I wrote way back 2000 to the Greenwich Times - this is not in dispute - and the answer was "that was all I could do". And I can agree since my letter of serious content did not contain actually proof – as I put forth a searing indictment of Joe Ricc's Elan , located in Poland ,Springs Maine .
I re- read your topic concerning the “know nothing media” - Ajax13- and then it struck me you are not talking about the media being dumb - ( this by the way is a complete re-edit -) no not by any means it is a very knowing and from this knowledge, indeed appears calculating/protecting of this horrid industry that abuses children for a serious profit since this troubled teen industry does exist nation wide.
The American media certainly does know and in fact since 2000 it was told by my letter of serious indictment ; Dear Sirs, That besides the Kennedy's family having suffered severe tragedies, Joe Ricci needs to be reminded that many, families have suffered severe tragedies, as well as their loved ones from just having come in contact with him, his elan ,and his cretins that helped him run it "…... a little more accurate version as to what my letter contained.
I went on to write of the tragedies suffered - only three paragraphs my letter -I know he couldn't print it then because it was a serious letter of indictment, that mentioned an American families household well known name - yet why I asked was my letter sent ( faxed ) across the country to the Greenwich Times and the answer was " that was all I could do " . I understand this there were no real supporting statement of facts , witnesses, like there are now.
Please Mr. Jackman Wilson - I may butter you up on a comment- sure- it was an intense time for me - and you have the audacity to blow smoke ....as a representative and a member of the media as well as Mr. Mike Sweeny knew way back then -( his out of not knowing is that he doesn't work at the GT any more).
Mr. Wilson you sent a letter 3000 miles across the country in 2000. So yesterday I asked if you had any idea why the American media since you are a member of the this establishment by being an Op Editor for the Register Guard now and certainly then in Jan 0f 2000.
Why does the knowing American media not report on the bigger picture of this TT industry, and you said we report on the local abuses - Funny it appears that the know nothing local media apparently can't report accurately on the abuses reported by another paper in its own state –
Again in 2000 that letter ( my letter ) of serious indictment of Joe Ricci , and his Elan goes across the country from Eugene Oregon to Greenwich, Connecticut to me I think certainly that is not local reporting/or investigating – is it colliusion/complictly ? of this known participant of Joe Ricci's Elan in the greater scheme of the TTI, since both papers Editor's told me they could not print my letter – though Mr. Sweeney called me up upon receiving the faxed copy of my letter sent by Mr. Jackman Wilson to ask me if I had indeed written it ,though he told me he can't print it.
There is no dispute about my letter being sent across the country as I have described – and I have written about this before on this site, the my letter and Mr. Sweeny etc, a while back actually, here on Fornits. I asm not going to go look for it , christ I know it is here.
I see that in state “local reporting” the local media cannot apparently report accurately/ consistently as we see from the two posted articles about the same place -concerning abuses -
What concerns me even more the Register Guard sent a letter across the country – the American media knew about Elan - as did the American media member, the Greenwich Times on the east coast back in 2000 -
True the Greenwich Times was really reporting and investigating the murder of Martha Moxley that happened in 1975- by allegedly by a Kennedy relative who was one of Joe Ricci's residents at his Elan. This is also very documented, and confirmed by Mr. Sweeny ,as he mentioned to me that the story was more about the person who allegedly murdered a young woman in 1975, and not Elan.
The results the abuses of Elan as it effected many other American families who I opined had suffered as well as the loved ones who are/were known to me, by my letter, in effect was tip to the American media back in 2000 as that letter traveled rather un- locally across the nation, about a known imo criminal organization that was very active and evidently protected as this organization's certain facts became known over the years since 2000 as the Elan Corporation/ school Joe Ricci's protected golden cash cow, started to be exposed by survivors of that hell hole, as we wrote about it everywhere we could. It started in 1970 and wasn't closed until 2011- interesting?
And I am told that was all the Register Guard could do was fax that letter . Sounds like bad American media - knowing about a continuing crime and not reporting it or investigating it as it was well known to this know nothing American media – jeez.
The question I asked yesterday was why the media doesn't report one of the biggest crimes against children and scams against parents in this country the Troubled Teen ( abusive) industry, it has simply become so apparent when the media has known about this sick industry for at least 16 plus years, it has certainly known about the existence of this abhorrent industry. - are we the public to believe reporters cannot google the words Troubled Teen Industry - and not see it first hand, the information rolls across the screen, or do their screens simply black out and nothing can be seen by a reporter googling – the troubled teen industry.
I wrote a letter expressing back in January of 2000 ( there is no dispute about this fact ) my first hand knowledge of a sadistic ,violent ,brutal , soul eating hell hole as I was quoted by Judy Meyers Editor in the newspaper, and American media member the Lewiston Sun Journal, in Lewiston, Maine when Elan closed in 2011 - but I wrote my letter in 2000. Why 11 years so late ?
I will give, that in Maine, Elan existed at the pleasure and protection of the very people that valued money more than the very lives of children they were entrusted to protect by the state offices they held. A Point made by Mr. Roy Gutfinski's comment on Mr.Bill Diamonds amazon book review page , the Evil and the Innocent, and Mr. Gutfinski courageously comes forward after have retired after having held the position of a Maine State parole and probation officer for close to 34 years , who states he was told by superiors that if he kept making the problems he knew about Elan, that he could become the problem “and be made to disappear like Jimmy Hoffa”.
Hoffa vanished in 1975.
Really know nothing American media this man made this comment over a year plus ago- It can be read on the Elan site as well here on Fornits– don't and please don't take my word for it – please read his .comment/statement concerning the protection he learned that as he was told early in his career , threatened really, that he could become the problem and be made to disappear just like Jimmy Hoffa as he learned of the protection Joe Ricci and Elan enjoyed provided by people in Maine state office.
I had to write that twice – it is so darn mind boggling the implications of Roy Gutfinski's words are deafening loud, and indicting of the corrupt protection that was affored Joe Ricci and his Elan . Goes all the way back to Gov. Longly in 1975 . See trailer for The last Stop Illinois knew when they tried to pull out its states wards , in 1975., and what Illionois was found was deplorable -
And of course the DoJ needs to speak with this man Roy Gutfinski a former officer of law , coerced to get in line with the protection afforded the Elan place in Poland Springs Me. The DoJ needs gets off its collective rear end and begin a politically unbiased investigation in to the Elan school, using the Rico Act an investigative and prosecutorial tool the DoJ ( Federal Dept of Justice) has that tool that can be used to investigate and prosecute criminal organizations imo like Joe Ricci's Elan that ran for close to forty years – regardless of the fact Elan closed in 2011.
Elan survivors know that the state of Maine is totally incapable of conducting an investigation of this nature because of the stink that allowed Elan to exist as it ran (again ) imo as a criminal organization for close to forty years – And this is certainly a known story by the American media in the State of Maine – Judy Meyers knows Mr. Bill Diamond and he is not going to be investigated by her news organization The Lewiston Sun Journal that she is an editor, and since it is a local story – man how it stinks, this bleeding festering wound on Maine State history all the way down here to Virginia, and the stench can be smelled from this wound 3000 miles away in Oregon as it's Register Guard ,a member of the American media ,has known about Elan for over 16 years.
And to the American media this isn't news nor worth reporting as Elan is/was a part of this sick and utterly criminal Troubled Teen Industry – that thrives under the watch of the know nothing American media – one word please.
Know nothing my American eye balls , -media - So where actually is the Know nothing American media on this - a big sick story, one so sick it encompasses so many states, even countries, Canada's AARC, which came from a closed and rightfully closed abusive, Kids of Bergin county of New Jersey , -a spin off of the Straights that was closed in Florida for being abusive to children- information so easily found. The trail of these people can be followed as they close down under one name and open up as they migrated north to eventually Canada and set up shop as AARC.
Same abusive techniques that closed Straights, as employees from Straights started Kids of Bergin county new Jersey same abusive practices – really same program just a different name – shut down –in this criminal sadistic child abusing for profit industry aka the Troubled Teen Industry. Whack a mole indeed.
It is beyond my imagination , this story Happened/ is happening right underneath this know nothing American media's collective noses as the original story I read that set me off about Joe Ricci's Elan was under the AP ( associated press) writing and release back in 2000.
At least the CBC has the guts to investigate and thru the programing of the fifth estate, the dishonest know nothing American media refuses to investigate and actually report about this crime happening against the American population's must vulnerable population , children , and in some cases abusing the daylights out of at risk children placed by states as they look for programs for their wards because of they monies they are willing to spend getting the child's case off the desk of state social workers.
This industry preys on parents fears as it manipulates them into believing that their child if not placed in a program will that child will soon be dead shilled by Education consultants that feed the children by predatory and false marketing practices used on parent to get hteir loved children into these abusive programs.
So disgusting is this issue that festers and grows effortlessly under the watch of the know nothing American media.
Ajax I am no reporter and if person like I can read and make the connections of abuse easily to programs operating today - one would think the American Media could very easily connect those very dots and collectively report on this insane crazy abuse as therapy for profit industry -
last time I looked child abuse is a crime - a very serious crime , and that is what this sick industry profits upon. And to think this knowing American media knows very well about this insidiously sick Troubled Teen Industry it is now looking like this troubled teen industry exists at the pleasure of the American MEDIA, whoa there certainly goes a bit credibility right out the window.
NBC news was to conduct interviews of survivors of abusive programs , one was a Canadian survivor , about 2.5 or so years ago – It was posted on Reddits talked about on a Reddits sub called the Troubled Teen Industry, eventually this conducting of the interviews was quashed - And this is a rather huge story - one would think that it could be very easy for the American media to report and expose to the mainstream America this truly sad and sick, damaging industry that profits on serial criminal child abuse all over this country. Why was this quashed ?
Know nothing shoot -it stinks so badly this knowing and lack of reporting of a serious criminal enterprise the T T abusive industry . Especially when it concerns the wide spread use of criminally abusing children as therapy – read the survivors stories and then having the audacity to profit hugely on this to the tune of close to a billion dollars a year , as this criminal industry banks such profits - it is just simply wrong.
A few I'd like to know who is telling the media not to report this crime - it has become a too obvious a story to not report - who is knowingly telling the media to ignore this story ? Who has the power to tell the American media to not report this rather extensive that has key players UHS (universal heath services )
Can the Associated Press(AP) or news organizations, United Press International(UPI) , be taken to court for not reporting/ and certainly knowing about a crime, of abusing children for profit ? Can the press be forced to report a crime since many people know the American media certainly knows about this TTI and stories of chronic abusive practices masquerading as therapy ?
Ajax I want to snag that reporting that was done by the CBC - on Dean Vause's- little scam imo he has got tooling along in Canada , the hidden camera footage is just typical of this industry , it is not us that are doing it , Vause complains its the victims and survivors that are lying , just grossly sickening and typical as these places like the Scotts Valley School that “Oscar” had originally posted (and I posted here at the top in my comment ) on the section on this site Fornits called the Trouble Teen Industry, and the subsequent follow up story by the Register Guard from the 8th of this month January I found on Reddit's TTI.
I would like to put the CBC video on another site. I trust/hope you won't mind.
In my opinion one way or another this story has got to end. And for god's sake American media please just give me some truth.
