Public School Abuse

[DannyB II]

Wow, Just the tip of the iceberg?

According to a draft report commissioned by the U.S. Department of Education, in compliance with the 2002 "No Child Left Behind" act signed into law by President Bush, between 6 percent and 10 percent of public school children across the country have been sexually abused or harassed by school employees and teachers.

Extrapolating data from the latter, she estimated roughly 290,000 students experienced some sort of physical sexual abuse by a school employee from a single decade—1991-2000. That compares with about five decades of cases of abusive priests.
Such figures led her to contend "the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests."

Some of the most recent cases of school sexual abuse include the following:

•  In 2002, a California high school teacher ran off to Las Vegas with one of her 15-year-old students;
•  The same year, a Louisiana teacher was accused of having an affair with a 14-year-old student;
•  In the Bronx, one teacher was charged with the statutory rape of a 16-year-old former student;
•  In March, a 20-year-old Anderson, Ind. choir aide was charged with allegedly raping a 16-year-old female student—the two had a consensual relationship for three months before the girl asked to break it off;
•  A week earlier, an Indianapolis Public Schools substitute was caught having sex with a 15-year-old student in a vacant classroom;
•  A Washington state teacher was convicted of 10 counts of sexually exploiting minors by persuading them to pose nude for him—he then uploaded some of the images to a Web site;
•  Also in Washington, state officials say 159 coaches of girls sports have been fired or reprimanded over the last decade for sexual misconduct;
•  An investigation found more than 60 instances in the last four years of Texas high school and middle school coaches losing jobs as a result of allegations of sexual misconduct.

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Thanks good info....

Danny

[Pile of Dead Kids]

Debunked

Fox News pointing out obvious flaws (and believe me, when FOX FUCKING 'NEWS' sees the obvious flaws..) in some dumb bitch's gross misuse of statistics, which was seized upon by Newsmax to protect the Catholic Church, because she was dumb enough to mis-cite a report from feminists and ended up conflating teachers' harassment with teenage boys'.

Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls...

[walkedthere]

Pile ... thank you once again!

[Pile of Dead Kids]

Pile ... thank you once again!

What can I say? A little bit of skepticism and a little bit of Googling goes a long way.

If a hundred, or sixty, or hell even ten kids in an average thousand-kid school were actually being sexually harassed by their teachers (and not by Bobby sitting at the desk behind her who can't take his eyes off her ass), there would be an immense clusterfuck with widespread screaming media panic.

[DannyB II]

Have I got this right ... a 6-year old report of a draft based on a 4 year older survey  has an author who concludes teacher sexual abuse in public schools exceeds that of priests, at least on a relative basis?  Even though priest abuse apparently involves touching or more, while the teacher "abuse" could be an off-hand remark someone thinks has a sexual connotation?  But why no final report?  Why nothing newer on the subject than 6 years?  And why little to no substantiation of the allegations?

There is no doubt that teachers have taken advantage of their position in some cases, and that students have suffered as a result.  But an off-the-cuff remark that someone takes offense at is not the same as rape.

And --- if the report was ever accepted as meriting publishing, and the subject were such a big issue, wouldn't there be something about the matter in the last half-decade plus?

Obviously neither Pile or yourself are parents of children. There is not a public school in American that has not had a convicted sex offender employed at one time. Second having a child go to a school and come home with a complaint due to a sexual conflicting message from a teacher is not any fun. I don't care if the teacher was being funny or not or it was off the cuff.
What is sad is you want to argue this report to begin with, I thought you two were for children rights who are going to schools/programs. The intimidation by teachers in public schools my friend can be very abusive. Every kind of abuse we have talked about here in these programs have happened or is still happening in public schools almost to the alphabet.
 But you don't want this no Pile you are more interested in showing off in front of your buddies here, being the big guy. The guy that is going to show whooter that he is the intellectual stud around here.
That's great there Pile but in your zeal your fucking the very children that need your advocating. Your EGO Pile is waaaaaaaayyyy out in front. I can't see your genuine purpose here anymore.

Danny

[DannyB II]

CBS news reports....
Treveon Martin, 10, is one of at least 818 Chicago Public School students, since 2003, to allege being battered by a teacher or other staff member.

    * CPS Takes Action On Corporal Punishment
      (10/7/2008)
    * Painful Lessons: Students Face Corporal Punishment
      (9/24/2008)

Hundreds of students have allegedly been beaten by teachers, coaches and staff at Chicago Public Schools. 2 Investigator Dave Savini continues his ongoing investigation involving the illegal use corporal punishment.

Treveon Martin, 10, is afraid of a teacher at his school.

"I've seen him hit five of them in the classroom," Martin said.

Martin says he and others have been hit, grabbed and even struck with a belt.

"He's threatened almost all the kids in his classroom," Martin said.

He says it happened at Robert Emmet Academy in November but a Chicago Public School investigator didn't talk to him until last week - 70 days after the case was reported, and not until after we started asking questions.

"He holded my arms and he picked my body up, and then he just slammed me on the desk," Martin said.

An exclusive CBS 2 investigation discovered Treveon Martin is one of at least 818 Chicago Public School students, since 2003, to allege being battered by a teacher or an aide, coach, security guard, or even a principal. In most of those cases - 568 of them - Chicago Public School investigators determined the children were telling the truth.

"I'm thinking that I don't really feel safe," Martin said.

The 2 Investigators found reports of students beaten with broomsticks, whipped with belts, yard sticks, struck with staplers, choked, stomped on and pushed down stairs. One substitute teacher even fractured a student's neck.

But even more alarming, in the vast majority of cases, teachers found guilty were only given a slap on the wrist.

CBS 2 informed former Chicago Public School CEO Arne Duncan of our investigative findings shortly before he was promoted to U.S. Secretary of Education.

"If someone hits a student, they are going to be fired. It's very, very simple," Duncan said.

Before heading to Washington, he vowed to take action.

"Any founded allegation where an adult is hitting a child, hitting a student - they're going to be gone," Duncan said.

But that's not what happened under Duncan's watch. Of the 568 verified cases, only 24 led to termination. Records show one teacher who quote "battered students for several years" was simply given a "warning" by the Board of Education.

And another student was given "100 licks with a belt." The abuse was substantiated, but the records show the teacher was not terminated.

Alderman Pat O'Connor is on the City Council Education Committee. He wants all these cases re-examined including the way Treveon Martin's was handled.

"I'll tell you what it is - it's deplorable," O'Connor said. "I really believe that the Board has dropped the ball in this instance."

He says this information was never brought to the committee's attention until now.

"You rely on them to follow the law, and clearly here, it doesn't appear that they have," O'Connor said.

There is a state law that bans corporal punishment. But as our 2 Investigators first exposed in September - students are being hit by coaches too. Paddles were confiscated, and CBS 2 exposed gym security tape at Simeon Career Academy showing a coach paddling volleyball players reportedly for missing serves.

Martin says the teacher injured him after he got into a scuffle with a classmate over an eraser.

"My back really hurted, and then at the end of the day, I had to go the hospital," Martin said.

His mother, Courtney Smith, says he was taken by ambulance and treated for a contusion on his back. It is children around his age who appear to be most at risk. The 2 Investigators found the students with the most complaints are in kindergarten through 8th grade.

"He doesn't have very much faith in anyone at his school," Smith said.

"He hurt my feelings," Martin said.

So why did it take over two months to look into Martin's case? School officials say it's because they have many cases to investigate. But just a few hours ago, an investigator determined the allegations against the teacher were unfounded. We are also told only two students were interviewed.

Incoming Chicago Public Schools CEO Ron Huberman is troubled by all these cases, including the case of Treveon Martin and promises to further review them, and that includes the process by which they are examined and investigated.

Alderman O'Connor is drafting a resolution and will bring our findings to the attention of the entire City Council this week.

(© MMX, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)

[DannyB II]

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Stop Child Abuse In Public Schools
posted by: Jessica Pieklo 297 days ago
Stop Child Abuse In Public Schools

Despite the fact that the use of corporal punishment on students is a violation of international human rights law, a report issued jointly by Human Rights Watch and the ALCU found that corporal punishment is routine in public schools in many parts of the US, and that almost a quarter-of-a-million school children were paddled, thrown to the floor, struck with rulers or other instruments, pinched, and hit as a means of discipline. Of those students subjected to this abuse, a disproportionate amount were students with disabilities, often punished simply for displaying symptoms of that disability.  Examples include students with Tourette syndrome physically punished for exhibiting involuntary tics and students with autism physically punished for repetitive behavior such as rocking.

DannyB II wrote:
Ursus wasn't it back on the thread for JRC, that you talked about children with High Functioning Autism, Aspergers and other similar disabilities that you would advocate for them to be integrated in the public school system. Well not a very good idea is it.

 
 
Children are protected from the use of corporal punishment in most US juvenile detention centers and mental health facilities, yet twenty states currently permit the use of corporal punishment in public schools.  In states where corporal punishment is allowed, hundreds of school districts make routine use of it.  Under human rights law including the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, the UN Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhumane or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, and the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, physical force may only be used against students when it is absolutely necessary to protect a child or others, and even then the minimum amount of force for the shortest amount of time must be used.  

Landon K., a six-year-old-boy with autism illustrates that many school districts ignore these mandates.  He was paddled on the buttocks by his assistant principal, described by Landon's mother as a "large man--nearly 300 pounds" for simply shouting in class.  Michelle R., whose son has Tourette syndrome, finally removed her child from school after he was placed in a closet and repeatedly hit for displaying involuntary tics.  The more her son tried to explain that the physical behavior was connected to his disability, the more he was punished for it.  In some cases the punishment was so severe the children were hospitalized, suffering injuries comparable to motorcycle accident victims.
The use of corporal punishment, especially on students with disabilities, can cause permanent physical and mental injury.  Landon K. became terrified of returning to school and began suffering violent outbursts if approached from behind.  Paddling can cause deep bruising, severe muscle injury, hematomas, and hemorrhaging, according to The Society for Adolescent Medicine.  Students subjected to paddling and other physical violence also suffer mental stigma from being abused in front of their classmates.  All this despite the fact that evidence is conclusive that corporal punishment is ineffective in dealing with even extreme behavioral problems in the classroom.

The intimidation from teachers and the peer pressure from students is oppressive. Now thank god these children get to go home at the end of the day. So it is not 24/7 as a TC is but WTF. Is this 2010 or 1860. For fuck sake we still allow corporal punishment, where are the parents. Have this outlawed.

The findings by Human Rights Watch and the ACLU were based on over 200 interviews conducted between December 2007 and June 2009 with experts and individuals directly affected by corporal punishment, including parents, students, teachers, administrators and special education professionals.  It calls for a complete prohibition on the use of corporal punishment against all students in US public schools and offers recommendations to Congress, the Department of Education and local governments, including best practices and a moratorium on corporal punishment against students with disabilities until a full prohibition is achieved.  The United States did take one small step closer to rectifying the situation when it signed the U.N. Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, the most comprehensive international treaty on the rights of persons with disabilities in history.

US federal and state governments can uphold children's rights by banning corporal punishment and implementing positive behavioral supports.  With appropriate funding, training, and support, educators can create and implement discipline systems that respond to the fundamental needs of even the most vulnerable students.  In doing so they can create environments where every student thrives and reaches his or her academic potential--all without raising a single hand in violence.

Read more: education, civil rights, human rights, corporal punishment, public schools

Danny

[Whooter]

Debunked

Fox News pointing out obvious flaws (and believe me, when FOX FUCKING 'NEWS' sees the obvious flaws..) in some dumb bitch's gross misuse of statistics, which was seized upon by Newsmax to protect the Catholic Church, because she was dumb enough to mis-cite a report from feminists and ended up conflating teachers' harassment with teenage boys'.

Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls...

Pile, The report wasn’t debunked by Fox news, they just were reporting a challenge made by the Secretary of education and others.
Among some of the challenges was the definition of “Sexual Abuse”.  They challenged the various definitions being lumped together like “Physical, verbal and visual”.  These are similar issues we have here on fornits where we have seen abuse defined as the removal of salt from the table to rape of a minor.   Many of us challenge this, but we cannot say we debunked the survivors stories in all cases.

Whenever a report of this magnitude comes out there will be an immediate response (and attempts to deflect the damage)from the industry being damaged by it.  In this case it is the public education industry.  The Secretary of Education has to come out against it, he has no choice or he will lose his job.  When the reports of abuse came out against the Catholic church they orchestrated a similar defense campaign which was reported by Fox News.  But I would not define it as the Church debunking it.

It was a good find, though, Pile.  I just wanted to clarify it a bit.

Its good news for all of us and apparently this report has sparked controversy around the country and will result in reform in hiring and screening practices which will help to lower this number going forward.  If their attempts are successful then the process can be matched by other industries like the private sector and Residential Treatment Centers.

Ultimately this will benefit the kids in programs as well, which is what we all want.



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[Ursus]

LINKS for your citations, please... For all anyone knows, ya could be fabricating data once again, Whooter.

[Whooter]

LINKS for your citations, please... For all anyone knows, ya could be fabricating data once again, Whooter.

Ah, that wasn't very nice.



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[Joel]

Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010

[DannyB II]

http://www.care2.com/causes/civil-rights/blog/stop-child-abuse-in-public-schools/

support civil-rights
Stop Child Abuse In Public Schools
posted by: Jessica Pieklo 297 days ago
Stop Child Abuse In Public Schools

Despite the fact that the use of corporal punishment on students is a violation of international human rights law, a report issued jointly by Human Rights Watch and the ALCU found that corporal punishment is routine in public schools in many parts of the US, and that almost a quarter-of-a-million school children were paddled, thrown to the floor, struck with rulers or other instruments, pinched, and hit as a means of discipline.  Of those students subjected to this abuse, a disproportionate amount were students with disabilities, often punished simply for displaying symptoms of that disability.

Examples include students with Tourette syndrome physically punished for exhibiting involuntary tics and students with autism physically punished for repetitive behavior such as rocking

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Ursus if I remember correctly you were advocating back on the JRC thread for children with Aspergers, High Functioning Autism and other disabilities, for their parents to place them back in the public school system. Now mind you I am not advocating JRC but just say'in that public schools are not the answer either.

Children are protected from the use of corporal punishment in most US juvenile detention centers and mental health facilities, yet twenty states currently permit the use of corporal punishment in public schools.  In states where corporal punishment is allowed, hundreds of school districts make routine use of it.

Where is the outrage, people. Pile I suppose you will let this slip by also. "Well at least there not in a program".

Under human rights law including the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, the UN Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhumane or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, and the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, physical force may only be used against students when it is absolutely necessary to protect a child or others, and even then the minimum amount of force for the shortest amount of time must be used.

Landon K., a six-year-old-boy with autism illustrates that many school districts ignore these mandates.  He was paddled on the buttocks by his assistant principal, described by Landon's mother as a "large man--nearly 300 pounds" for simply shouting in class.  Michelle R., whose son has Tourette syndrome, finally removed her child from school after he was placed in a closet and repeatedly hit for displaying involuntary tics.  The more her son tried to explain that the physical behavior was connected to his disability, the more he was punished for it.  In some cases the punishment was so severe the children were hospitalized, suffering injuries comparable to motorcycle accident victims.
The use of corporal punishment, especially on students with disabilities, can cause permanent physical and mental injury.  Landon K. became terrified of returning to school and began suffering violent outbursts if approached from behind.  Paddling can cause deep bruising, severe muscle injury, hematomas, and hemorrhaging, according to The Society for Adolescent Medicine.  Students subjected to paddling and other physical violence also suffer mental stigma from being abused in front of their classmates.  All this despite the fact that evidence is conclusive that corporal punishment is ineffective in dealing with even extreme behavioral problems in the classroom.

The findings by Human Rights Watch and the ACLU were based on over 200 interviews conducted between December 2007 and June 2009 with experts and individuals directly affected by corporal punishment, including parents, students, teachers, administrators and special education professionals.  It calls for a complete prohibition on the use of corporal punishment against all students in US public schools and offers recommendations to Congress, the Department of Education and local governments, including best practices and a moratorium on corporal punishment against students with disabilities until a full prohibition is achieved.  The United States did take one small step closer to rectifying the situation when it signed the U.N. Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, the most comprehensive international treaty on the rights of persons with disabilities in history.

US federal and state governments can uphold children's rights by banning corporal punishment and implementing positive behavioral supports.  With appropriate funding, training, and support, educators can create and implement discipline systems that respond to the fundamental needs of even the most vulnerable students.  In doing so they can create environments where every student thrives and reaches his or her academic potential--all without raising a single hand in violence.

Read more: education, civil rights, human rights, corporal punishment, public schools

Danny

[DannyB II]

Ursus if I remember correctly you were advocating back on the JRC thread for children with Aspergers, High Functioning Autism and other disabilities, for their parents to place them back in the public school system. Now mind you I am not advocating JRC but just say'in that public schools are not the answer either.

The idea is "least restrictive" environment.

So just so I understand you call "the idea" of public schools a less restrictive enviroment. Are you talking a special program within the public school or just throwing them in there with the population.

The ultimate goal is self-sufficiency, or as close to it as possible. Since the feasibility of realizing that goal is quite high and quite probable when it comes to Aspies and high-functioning Autistics, it makes little sense to take a kid out of the mainstream when it isn't necessary.

Ursus I am not the sharpest pencil around here but even I know your reaching for the stars thinking that these children can make it in the mainstream. Their motor skills at ages 6-12 are well below other children let alone their cognitive and social skills, they have to be adjusted before they can function in society without being inculcated (never used that word before). Ursus you know this too. Public school whether in Harlem or West Hartford Ct is not going to prevent the inevitable.
 

If anything, it presents yet another problematic transition and social environment that the kid needs to learn and adjust to, one that will, in all likelihood, have little or nothing to do with his or her life in the real world

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Not if they are started out in a specialized (Non-TC Methodology) program specifically centered on their disabilities.
 

Moreover, since these programs all pretty much rely on TC-derived "positive peer culture" environments to do their inculcating, this can be, depending on the personality of the kid, potentially lethal. You put an introspective, socially-inhibited Aspie into an environment like that, you're asking for a bully fest.

First off I don't believe anybody in their right mind had a concept like what your explaining here in mind. A bully fest you don't even need the other kids the teachers will do it to them. Nobody within the public school environment has the capability of dealing with this type of student and you know this. So they end up being separated from the population and put in special classes down the hall and that is when the bully fest will start. Ya know the "short bus".
No, my opinion is have them in a totally separate site and work with them, gradually integrate them into society maybe into public school for the very high end of functionality. Don't start them there.  
 

As far as public schools go, it really depends mostly on the neighborhood and/or town, doesn't it? If you think that what's going on in a PS in Grosse Point, Michigan or Manhasset, Long Island can possibly compare with what's going on in a PS in the South Bronx, you are seriously delusional.

I would watch what you are saying here you almost sound like you are separating and maybe some folk would not like your reference, ya know what I mean. Just say'in.

Danny

[Paul St. John]

_ Rebecca A. Boicelli, a former teacher in Redwood City, Calif. She conceived a child with a 16-year-old former student then went on maternity leave in 2004 while police investigated. She was hired to teach in a nearby school district; board members said police hadn't told them about the investigation.



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This is a rarity Whooter.  You know that.

Paul

[Whooter]

_ Rebecca A. Boicelli, a former teacher in Redwood City, Calif. She conceived a child with a 16-year-old former student then went on maternity leave in 2004 while police investigated. She was hired to teach in a nearby school district; board members said police hadn't told them about the investigation.



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This is a rarity Whooter.  You know that.

Paul

Yea, I know, but there are so many of them.  They get caught and just move to another school district and start over.  I am sure she will pop up again.



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