Morgan

[Whooter]

The quicker she's away from them the quicker she can leave them behind and move on in her life.

Like your sister?  (wink).  You suck at helping people, Niles.  We both know that.  You let your selfishness get in the way.  Lets stop pretending you really care.  You couldnt even get the balls up enough to help yourself or your own sister.  Its all about you and the drama. Now you have a sidekick (PODKs) who sucks up to you.

Its all a anime game for you.



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Anyway, for someone so keen on trying to get to know people personally, you sure are secretive yourself. I find it rather amusing you hide behind a veil while telling people to listen to your advice and give people money at your behest.

I am not secretive at all, Niles.  Everyone knows who I am, just ask Dysfunction Junction!!  lol.  I dont take money from people nor tell them where to spend it.  I also dont put 15 year old girls info on porn sites and then walk around like you are making a positive effect in this world.  You are scum, Niles.

It blows my mind how protective you use to pretend to be about your sister at 15 years of age and then turn around and expose this girl like that.  You suck at trying to help people.  You have no morals and are only in this for the high drama and it doesnt matter who you hurt.  Why not try to help this person instead of letting her go down the same path as your sister?  Try to be a man and do the right thing, screw PODKs you dont need his ego boast.



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[Nihilanthic]

Your tears are so very, very sweet.

[psy]

You are scum, Niles.

seconded.  And since this is open free for all (i'll split it later maybe), i'd like to add a healthy "fuck you" for giving that girl horrible horrible advice.  You want underage girls to live on the streets?  Yeah, that's safe.  Where do you think they can go?  They can't stay with friends.  And so they have to find new friends who will help underage girls.  And if I remember correctly she's blind.  You know what that means.  Yeah.  That's real safe.  Sure programs can fuck you up but if you're properly prepared you can mitigate the damage.  It's a luxury when somebody knows beforehand.  You took an incredible risk with this girl's future and the fact that you seem to flippantly not care makes me think you are indeed, scum.

God fucking bless open free for all.  I miss this place.  It's like a rap.

[Nihilanthic]

"Stop! Stop it god dammit stop it! I'm busy explaining how to hock a loogie and use her spittle as lube when you go and say she should just evade months of being raped completely!"

If she's blind that news to me but I do think you're too busy projecting Virginia, D.C., and your own upbringing to realize how well off the homeless can be in Oregon.

Anyway, I cannot speak for what pile has done, but I can speak for myself. All I did was tell her what could happen and suggest that she make a decision about running away or not, given the reality she was facing. If you really think some cursory education about sociology not very well imprinted into the mind of a 14/15/whatever year old teenage girl is going to somehow make them just float through a program you're smoking some good shit besides cock and various weeds, Mike.

Abuse over enough time can weaken and break literally anyone, including very well trained, elite troops who went through a full litany of hazing and actual training to resist this shit. You're seriously telling me that reading sociology books for a few weeks - as if she can take them with her - will somehow make up for the isolation, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and lack of hygiene. You might as well say if she gets phlegm from the back of her throat, asks nicely, and spits on her hand her rapist will let her lube up first.

It was painfully obvious her parents are dense, merely stupid, or just trying to ditch the kid. She's gone and out of their hands and I'm reasonably sure they just quit giving a shit. Mrs Gauss is probably busy fucking someone from some shitty cover band as we speak!

[Maximilian]

You got to look at it from their perspective. These are people who have never been in a program, so they come onto fornits and read the posts from people who had negative experiences in programs, and assume everybody has an experience as bad as that. Those of us who have been in programs know it's not as evil as some people portray it, and that good things also happen in programs. This rhetorical overreach of the posters here engage in has caused an unwanted side effect, which is to enrage these good hearted, yet naive people into an angry mob mentality, people who will do anything to keep people out of the supposed "evil" programs, as they are described here. If my only experience with programs was what I read on fornits, I would also agree with the extreme tactics. The ends justify the means, so long as the teen does not end up in a program, that is all that is important. This extreme position, is the result of people here only focusing on the negative, and portraying programs as evil to teengers as say concentration camps were to the Jews. So this sort of action does not surprise me at all, and it's not a coincidence it's people who haven't been in programs perpetrating it. Those of us who have been in programs, know the difference between what is said on fornits, and what true reality awaits teens entering a program.

[Che Gookin]

This thread gets better and better, best thing is yall are only encouraging others to join in with them. I find it very telling the number of people who haven't commented on this situation beyond the bare minimum of, "bad niles, bad pile, (insert outraged comments here)."

Those of you who were urging me to get her to run away in private, and there were alot of you people doing that, you really should say your bit now.

[Pile of Dead Kids]

She's not blind, psy. I don't know where the hell you pulled that from.

In case you haven't figured it out, the collective concern trolling around here means absolutely nothing. Cry louder. Maybe someone else might care.

Gookin, if they want to remain anon, let them. There's no point in them sacrificing that for the purposes of a whine thread.

From what I understand, she's at home now, or possibly with relatives, and her odds of being sent anywhere at this point are effectively zero.

[Che Gookin]

Hopefully she has wised up to her parent's stupidity and avarice enough to have a stand-by exit plan ready and waiting at all times.

[Whooter]

This thread gets better and better, best thing is yall are only encouraging others to join in with them. I find it very telling the number of people who haven't commented on this situation beyond the bare minimum of, "bad niles, bad pile, (insert outraged comments here)."

Those of you who were urging me to get her to run away in private, and there were alot of you people doing that, you really should say your bit now.

Thanks for pointing that out, Che, Their silence is deafening.  Many of them got pissed at me before for naming names so I wont do it now because they know who they are.

Its amazing how many people just sit back in silence and let these bullies just do and say what they want.  Then later say "Oh, I never supported PODKs and Niles".



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[Nihilanthic]

I still love how Psy thinks the key to fixing programs it to teach kids beforehand how wrong it all is and how to make drooly phlegm to slob a knob with to make it not hurt :beat:

[Nihilanthic]

This thread gets better and better, best thing is yall are only encouraging others to join in with them. I find it very telling the number of people who haven't commented on this situation beyond the bare minimum of, "bad niles, bad pile, (insert outraged comments here)."

Those of you who were urging me to get her to run away in private, and there were alot of you people doing that, you really should say your bit now.

Thanks for pointing that out, Che, Their silence is deafening.  Many of them got pissed at me before for naming names so I wont do it now because they know who they are.

Its amazing how many people just sit back in silence and let these bullies just do and say what they want.  Then later say "Oh, I never supported PODKs and Niles".



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You're the Christine O'Donnell of fornits, except probably less pretty.

Psy's the one who is probably on par as far as dicksucking goes as of late though.

[psy]

I still love how Psy thinks the key to fixing programs it to teach kids beforehand how wrong it all is and how to make drooly phlegm to slob a knob with to make it not hurt :beat:

When you can't win a battle you can at least cut your losses and regroup.  Kids are going to get sent to programs.  The ones who are smart and savvy enough (can't think of a better candidate than a sociology student) to be taught how to survive inside should be.  Even if they do "go native" as many eventually will, those with some education, who know how to "swim", won't completely drown in the program's dogma or will be able to scramble back to the surface.  Most kids don't get treatment for their program experiences after they leave and the more they wait the more damage.  It's best they understand what went on and as a result can better deal with it.

I'd like to think that every parent is open to dialogue but not all parents are.  Even when they aren't however, you can't predict the future and it's better not to blow up bridges.  That parent may eventually learn it's a con, especially if there is communication.

[Pile of Dead Kids]

When you can't win a battle

But that's exactly what we did, shitbird.

[psy]

When you can't win a battle

But that's exactly what we did, shitbird.

We'll see.  And even if you're right, it was still a gigantic risk.

[Nihilanthic]

I still love how Psy thinks the key to fixing programs it to teach kids beforehand how wrong it all is and how to make drooly phlegm to slob a knob with to make it not hurt :beat:

When you can't win a battle you can at least cut your losses and regroup.  Kids are going to get sent to programs.  The ones who are smart and savvy enough (can't think of a better candidate than a sociology student) to be taught how to survive inside should be.  Even if they do "go native" as many eventually will, those with some education, who know how to "swim", won't completely drown in the program's dogma or will be able to scramble back to the surface.  Most kids don't get treatment for their program experiences after they leave and the more they wait the more damage.  It's best they understand what went on and as a result can better deal with it.

I'd like to think that every parent is open to dialogue but not all parents are.  Even when they aren't however, you can't predict the future and it's better not to blow up bridges.  That parent may eventually learn it's a con, especially if there is communication.

Or, yanno, she could just dodge it completely because she had the option and is in a good place to exercise that option. Nevertheless you can educate them and say to be scarce when the kidnappers show up, which is kind of what happened.

At any rate, the crux of this is I'm saying to put on sneakers, and you're saying to pack condoms, w/r/t the issue of being potentially raped over and over again by people she's capable of outrunning.

Furthermore, if you had wanted to engage them in dialog, watch out to not step on their toes, use doilies and coasters before putting glasses on their table, take off your shoes before stepping inside and give Daniel Gauss the first BJ he's had in years, you should have actually done so, instead of just hinting at it. IF you really want to butter them up and think there's a way to use weasel words so these big fat babies can find a way out without fucking up their kid, just fucking do it.

Or, since you like stupid -chan memes, DIF.

At any rate, if that fails, at least making an attempt to evade a program until 18 while also knowing what it really entails is better than going in and trying to act docile and submissive in the hopes it won't make it worse. You should know better having experienced this first hand. And yes, I know I'll never win an argument with you, but I'm not going to settle for selling "act like you enjoy it!" as a means of avoiding rape.