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Offline ajax13

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No god But God
« on: February 09, 2008, 12:05:11 AM »
"Jason Tuer wrote
at 10:05pm on October 18th, 2007
Point being that although AARC may share some characteristics of a religion, there really isn't enough to hang your hat on."

"The Ninth Cicuit Court which covers the states of California, Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, Arizona, Alaska, and Hawaii has ruled against coercion into the Step groups on religious grounds. Perhaps most importantly according to the San Francisco Chronicle story at
http://www.sfgate.com/flat/archive/2007 ... S1AKQ.html,
"In fact, said the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco, the
constitutional dividing line between church and state in such cases is so
clear that a parole officer can be sued for damages for ordering a parolee
to go through rehabilitation at Alcoholics Anonymous or an affiliated program for drug addicts."

http://www.morerevealed.com/

Here is DavidPablo's description of his conversion to Vausism:
"...I had gone through so many dangerous situations and had ended up here, unscathed,... There were too many coincidneces for this to happen by accident.  I felt that if a Higher Power could get me here, then he could surely restore me to sanity."

Here is what happens when someone's faith deviates from Orthodox Vausism:

"Mr. C was an outstanding Counselor(sic), and I saw him do things with clients that were amazing...  He worked long hours, and ran Parent Raps and Open Meetings with a different but equally as effective style as Dr. Vause...
I spoke to my dad, who was the Clinical Chair at this point, and had done a lot of the hiring of senior positions, including Mr. C.  ... However, when it came to religious issues and treatment, Dad was a real stickler.  He had been a United Church Minister, and was very learned about the dangers of Fundamentalist Christian teachings,...
Dad met with Dr. Vause, and they met with the Board of Directors.  The decision was swift and sent a clear message.  There would be no "camps" or "factions" within AARC... Within a short time, Mr. C., Bill and the Senior Administrator were gone"

Mr. C is Jocelyn Comeau, former Clinical Supervisor and Intake Coordinator.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2008, 02:20:32 AM by ajax13 »
"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: No god But God
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 05:07:44 PM »
Somebody else coming betwen the Wiz and the money bites the dust.  Is this what's going on at All About Receiving Cash?
"Inside the Mind of a Sociopath
This excerpt is from: "The Sociopath Next Door: The Ruthless vs. the Rest of Us" by Martha Stout Ph.D. (Broadway Books, New York, 2005, ISBN 0-7679-1581-X).  Martha Stout is a clinical instructor at Harvard Medical School and elaborates on the tales of ruthlessness in everyday life based on her 25 years of practice as a specialist in the treatment of psychological trauma survivors.


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Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern of the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members.  Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken.  And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools.  Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs.  Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless.  You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness.  The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience that they seldom even guess at your condition.

In other words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is conveniently invisible to the world.  You can do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their consciences, will most likely remain undiscovered."
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992

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Re: No god But God
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 05:47:25 PM »
oops, back away from the door, ajax has now fiinally and completely lost it!

Just two simply questions that AJAX won't answer

never met Dean Vause, can not interpret or logically critique evaluation research but absolutely certain he knows what he is talking about . . . well. . .  All the anti-AARC people should be so proud of mr elliot for his brilliant response to two simply questions AND his "salient points" on said research.

Thanks for proving me right . . . also, i think you really are quite a loser

c ya
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Re: No god But God
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 06:01:22 PM »
You said you weren't coming back when you were using the name friendly.  I don't believe you anymore.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by Guest »
"AARC will go on serving youth and families as long as it will be needed, if it keeps open to God for inspiration" Dr. F. Dean Vause Executive Director


MR. NELSON: Mr. Speaker, AADAC has been involved with
assistance in developing the program of the Alberta Adolescent
Recovery Centre since its inception originally as Kids of the
Canadian West."
Alberta Hansard, March 24, 1992