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Wilderness therapy questionnaire for Fornits Wiki
Anonymous:
middle ground thinking doesnt get kids into programs. dogmatic thinking does. and your guilty of it, gookin. you might not force kids into programs but i dont even want to imagine what the consequences of your thinking would lead should you take serious action.
read the art of war buddy. you'll learn alot.
now is not the time to fight fire with fire.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---you've got some of it right, but not all, and if you really want to use this to influence change or elimination of truly abusive programs, you really need to get it right, including all terms being unbiased on their face
For example, "detainee" is a term showing bias.
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It doesn't show bias, it is the proper term for someone imprisoned without due process. Also approproate would be captive.
FemanonFatal2.0:
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---
--- Quote from: "Guest" ---you've got some of it right, but not all, and if you really want to use this to influence change or elimination of truly abusive programs, you really need to get it right, including all terms being unbiased on their face
For example, "detainee" is a term showing bias.
--- End quote ---
It doesn't show bias, it is the proper term for someone imprisoned without due process. Also appropriate would be captive.
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lol would you prefer that we label the detainees as "students"? In that case, that would be an outright lie, since there was absolutely no education system offered at High Impact. I'm curious to see what kind of unbiased term could be used to label a teen that is being held against their will in a behavior modification program, especially those like the notoriously abusive "wilderness programs" or "boot camps" that High Impact was. Is there some politically correct term that I'm simply not aware of?
::)
You programmies are ridiculous!
ladyblade91ws:
Not sure why I am even doing this - it has been so long...but here goes
General information:
Name: Wanda (Toney) Short
Address for check-in facility: I was sentenced in 1984 in Montgomery Co. PA to VisionQuest
Year established
Number of detainees in each group: I think maybe 12...but I was in the COA for much of my "stay"
Gender, coed or unisex: Coed...one girl's teepee and three boy's teepees
Program duration: I was sentenced originally to 9 months (3 in wilderness, 3 on wagon train, 3 in residential home) but it ended up being 11 months at WCE (wilderness camp east in Franklin, PA) and 2 months on the FoxTrail train...13 months in all because I was a "non conformist" and had so many injuries that included orthopedic surgery (two) that I was trapped in WCE.
Owner: who knows...Bob somebody
Program structure: Supposed to be a three month wilderness stint then promote to the wagon train, do a 2 week quest, then to a half way type house residential program to reaquaint you with the world...that was not my experience. The Wilderness section was an outdoor setting...living in teepees and inlcuded school time, physical training like workout sessions..., and that is pretty much it. I never seemed to break down like they wanted so I was in physical confrontations every day...sometimes more than once and had extensive injuries even requiring surgeries and hospital holds.
Admission: Were you escorted, tricked or volutary into the program: I was sentenced by a judge and taken into custody.Did they have a level system? What were the requirements to graduate to the next levels? Yes, but I never quite made them...I didnt follow the healing track or whatever.Living conditions: Real backpack or homemade back-breaking contraption.
Sleeping: tent or bivouac. Teepee in WCE and on the train.
Food: Mineral withholdment as part of the process of breaking or normal food - I do not recall ever being unable to eat...in fact they forced you to eat more than you wanted...that was terrible because then they would slam you (physical restraint) and if you puked you were hurt even more...
Communication: Where letter censored or evenlopes opened before you were allowed to read them. The errorlist or impact letter. At what point were this given to you. There was absolutely no contact with letters in or out of the program. No phone calls. I had one visit from my parents after my 2nd surgery. The next time I communicated with them was a year later when they picked me up at my release.Education: What kind of workbook did they offer?
Staff: Qualification and training: Different levels of staff...the highest ones were called SPS - Senior Professional Staff adn they wore a button or a cord on their jeans at the knee level to signafy.
Punishments or consequnces: What kind did they use?: Restraint, emotional abuse, yelling, hurting, threatening, lying, not let you sleep or sit/lay down, stand for hours in one spot, etc...terrible things they would say to get you to "snap".
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "Covergaard" ---If you have been at a wilderness therapy program and if you either miss it on Fornits wiki or would like to add additional information, please fill out this questionnaire:
The wilderness category on Fornits wiki looks like this:
General information:Name
Address for check-in facility.
Year established
Number of detainees in each group.
Gender, coed or unisex
Program duration
Owner:
Program structure:
Admission: Were you escorted, tricked or volutary into the program
Did they have a level system? What were the requirements to graduate to the next levels?
Living conditions: Real backpack or homemade back-breaking contraption.
Sleeping: tent or bivouac.
Food: Mineral withholdment as part of the process of breaking or normal food
Communication: Where letter censored or evenlopes opened before you were allowed to read them. The errorlist or impact letter. At what point were this given to you.
Education: What kind of workbook did they offer?
Staff: Qualification and training
Punishments or consequnces: What kind did they use?In the newsLinks to news about the programExternal LinksInfo pages and homepage of the program
Groups on the internet: Myspace, Msn, Yahoo, Google
Links to treads in forum
If you have a workbook from the program and want to upload it. Please use this page
If you dont have all the info, please state what you got. All contributions are welcome.
Please place your info in a reply to this tread.
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Why isn't "What did I do to get myself sent to a program" one of the questions?
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