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Why Sex Offenders should not be registered
« on: June 20, 2006, 10:04:00 PM »
Does societies hysteria with sex offenders contribute
to their failure's after release?

A person released from prison who had committed
multiple murders is more likely to succeed on the
outside than a person convicted of a voluntary sexual
act with a person one-day shy of their 18th birthday.

Society, in and through its unreasonable laws and
attitudes towards those offenders, makes it nearly
impossible for a sex offender to redeem his or her
life and to become a productive member of society.

Registration laws require that a person have an
address in most jurisdiction, yet cities have enacted
"zoning" restrictions to limit where they can live. In
most cases, only a few block area in an entire town is
the only permissible area to live in and there is not
enough housing, if any, to accommodate them.

Public disclosure of their picture, address, and
personal information has resulted in vigilante acts.
In one case, the vigilantes got the address wrong and
burnt down a house.

Two registered offenders in Washington State were
murdered by a man who claimed that God sent him to do
it. On the east coast, a Canadian killed two Maine
men. He himself was shot by the police and killed
after he tried to board a bus back to Canada and a gun
battle broke out.

Sex offenders are grouped together when in fact there
is a difference with the offenses. A person raping a
child of 10 is much different than a 20 year old
having voluntary sex with a 17 year old. Yet they are
categorized as the same.

Jobs: few, if any sex offenders are able to hold down
jobs because of the constant exposure to the public by
notification. Idle minds and hands get into trouble.

One woman who spoke at a local meeting claimed that
she was afraid to let her dog out into the yard
because there was a sex offender living in the
neighborhood. I felt very sorry for that lady.

I guess I am puzzled as to why someone would live next
to a paroled murderer even though they may not know it
because it is not required to be disclosed verses a
sex offender.

Thus far, the new laws passed by the small cities are
not working. Zoning a sex offender out only causes
them to move to the next city, and the next, and so
on.


So the question always is-what are we to do as a
permanant solution to this problem. We have tried long
prison sentences only to have that backfire by them
taking up valuable prison space causing serious
violent offenders to be let out.

We have tried rehabilitation which only works on those
who probably should not be classified as a sex
offender in the first place.

We have tried making them jump through the hoops by on
the job monitoring, electronic bracelets, and knock
and talk policies. All that this seems to have
accomplished was to cause them to loose their job and
fall back onto the welfare rolls.

Unfortunately, there are children in almost every
neighborhood, so taking them from the area of them is
not as simple as it may seem and besides that, most
sex offenders have committed a crime against an adult
so they really pose no danger to a child anyway.

Now some sex offenders are suing cities and towns
based upon their unreasonable laws. This causes the
towns and small cities to mount a legal defense which
costs the taxpayer lots of money (usually $100,000
up).

In one case an offender successfully argued that if he
was not permitted to enjoy the area streets, parks,
schools, etc. because he was not permitted to be in
that area, then he should not have to pay taxes for
it. This court argument alone cost the small town over
$900,000 and nearly bankrupt it.

We need to put the hysteria with sex offenders aside
and come up with a rational-workable solution.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2006, 10:15:00 PM »
Depends on the offense. Gay men caught being naughty in rest stop and park public toilets have to register as sex offenders in California, which I think it bullshit. Consenting adults having sex in a public area are not sex offenders.

But for child molesters, they shouldn't have to register, because they should never be let out of prison to begin with.

Fuck a five year old? Bam... lifetime sentence, no parole.
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2006, 10:41:00 PM »
If you visit the Department of Justice website, and research ACTUAL statistics and factual information, you will find that the number of released sex offenders that re-offend is in the SINGLE DIGITS percentage-wise. They, according to true fact, are the LEAST likely, of ALL offenders to re-commit. Gee, that totally goes against what you have been led to believe, huh. The facts are this...a child is molested every 2 minutes in this country...they are abused, (largest percentage) by family members, and/or people they know and trust. Stranger abduction is very rare. It just doesn't appear so because the media, and politicians passing "feel good" laws and banking their re-election on the public's fear, have you looking for boogeymen behind every bush.

The media jumps on these stories because it boosts their ratings and makes their advertisers very happy. The really sad thing to me is that there are THOUSANDS of men sitting in prison right now that were falsely accused of this crime, but were convicted. This just happened to my best friend's husband. After the jury found him guilty and he was given 25-Life for something he didn't even do, his attorney polled the jury. Attorneys do this to hone their skills...what could I have done differently, etc. The jury said, and I quote, "We didn't believe the child's story, there were major problems with it, but YOU (the defense attorney) didn't prove that he DIDN'T do it". So basically, my friend is sitting in a state prison now on the "what if" mentality, and the jury came right out and admitted it. They don't want to be a part of a jury who sends someone back out on the streets who's been accused of this kind of crime. They don't care that they just MIGHT be innocent. Well, I hope they can sleep well, I know I wouldn't be able to.

In the witch hunt mentality this country espouses today, if you are ACCUSED of a sex crime, you are GUILTY of it before you even step one foot in the courtroom. Many, MANY men are taking plea deals because even though they are innocent, the DA is threatening LIFE sentences if they make them take it to court, (or make the "victim" testify), and with the odds running EXTREMELY high in favor of the state (DA), they take the pleas.

The laws in this country, the restrictions concerning a released sex offender are changing weekly, right now as I type this, another state is tacking on even more and more restrictions. Men who have been out for YEARS, paid their debt to society and have never committed another crime since then, and who were told they wouldn't have to register BY THE JUDGE, or that they would only have to register for 10 years, are being told that they are now going to have to register for LIFE, because the state changed the law. The guy's been off of the register for 8-10 years, but he now has to go back on. DOUBLE JEOPARDY, anyone? Because to the man and his family who have to endure this, that is EXACTLY how it feels.

The registries, state AND national, are a joke. They are not kept up to date, the information you find on them is inaccurate at best. The ones you SHOULD be afraid of, the Joseph Duncans and Joseph Smiths, are the very ones who will go underground. The people who ABIDE by this "Scarlet Letter Law", have paid their debt and just want to get on with their lives. Live and work, just like everyone else, support their families. And don't even tell me that they should have thought about all of that BEFORE they committed the crime. So should an axe murderer have THOUGHT about his crime before he committed it. But if he gets out, either on parole or from having served his whole time, he's FREE. He doesn't have to plaster his personal information, including his address all over the world so nuts like that guy who killed the two in Maine last week, can easily find him, his wife, and his kids. Oh yes, sex offenders have families. So, we are not only persecuting them, we are terrorizing their wife and their children, on top of not allowing them to earn a living with which to support them.

Facts state that released felons who cannot find a place to live, cannot find a job, have had reassimilating back into society made IMPOSSIBLE...WILL RE-OFFEND.

There are good websites you can go to, to learn truth and facts about this crime and the people who commit them. Department of Justice, SOSEN.org is a good one, Prison Talk Online has a section for that particular crime and their families, it has a LOAD of factual information on it. Anyone is welcome to come in and read, learn, post, etc. You just won't be allowed to "bash". So think about that before you enter. The moderators there are very strict about that kind of thing. When you learn the truth, you are going to be angry about all of the lies the politicians have told you. Just remember that the easiest way for a candidate to get elected or re-elected is to play on your fears..."If you elect me, I will pass a bill that will exhile them to a deserted island somewhere". That's just an example.

After everything I have taken the time to learn, I would much rather live right smack dab beside a released sex offender than I would a drug dealer. There's more chance of your child being hit in a drive-by, than being hurt by that sex offender.

Our government is taking liberties, doing things to these people and their families that goes directly against their constitutional rights. If they can tell these people where they can work and live, they can do it to anyone, just remember that.

Thank you for listening.

Wake up, America, you're constitution's on fire.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2006, 11:40:00 PM »
Your MOM'S on fire!   :rofl:
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2006, 12:37:00 AM »
Would you let this sex offender just getting out of prison babysit your little child? Bet you wouldn't, now would you?
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2006, 12:39:00 AM »
Think I want you to do some research: there is no know cure for pedophiles!
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2006, 01:27:00 AM »
I don't give a shit if there is a low chance of the sex offender re-offending. His sentence should be lifetime because of the fact he did it THE FIRST TIME. You have pretty much ruined a good part of that kid's psyche. Why the fuck should you ever get out of jail, bitch?

Besides, child molestation and rape are probably the most under-reported crimes in this country, because of the shame it involves. So I don't trust numbers. For every reported incident, there are going to be shitloads that aren't.

And what does the fact that it's mostly done by a person the child knows have to do with it? What, only "strangers" get sent to prison? Not last time I checked. A sex offender is a sex offender, whether they knew the kid or not. They should go to jail for life.

Fuck a kid. Go to jail. You've lost your right to be a part of society.
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2006, 01:41:00 AM »
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On 2006-06-20 21:39:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Think I want you to do some research: there is no know cure for pedophiles!"


The term pederasty embraces a wide range of erotic practices between adult males and adolescent boys. Pederastic relations can have widely dissimilar manifestations ? they can be spiritual or materialistic, lawful or transgressive, loving or commercial, compassionate or abusive ? and have been documented from prehistory to modern times.

Rendered as "age-structured homosexuality" it is, together with gender-structured relations and egalitarian relations one of the three main subdivisions of homosexuality proposed by anthropologists, and the most common historically.

A similar term, pedophilia, is related, but is used to denote the condition in which children are the preferred sexual object.

More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2006, 03:39:00 AM »
Must really suck for the innocent "sex offenders" out there!
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2006, 11:44:48 PM »
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Must really suck for the innocent "sex offenders" out there!


I didnt know that sex offenders could be innocent. Sex offenders should be banned from walefare and mowing lawns.
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2006, 11:46:57 PM »
They should be sexually offended.
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2006, 09:54:22 AM »
:rofl: :tup:
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2006, 03:43:37 PM »
who cares? just do them and us a favor and give them the death penalty.
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2011, 11:05:24 PM »
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Think I want you to do some research: there is no know cure for pedophiles!
I find child porn on the internet a victimless crime. I also think the age of consent should be 4
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Re: Why Sex Offenders should not be registered
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2011, 11:17:00 PM »
Uggh, can you leave Danny's dead nephew out of this?
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