Okay, what is with these program parents, that they can't see their own humanity and flaws. Karen, would you defend your comments below as being 'mature' and 'respectful', that which you claim is lacking here? Your key words are Pretentious and Double-standard.
Re: Fornits. I had this silly notion that one could engage in logical discussion and perhaps share some things from a parent's viewpoint. That isn't the way it works. That forum consists mainly of psychopaths who want to punish parents for how they were treated by their own parents, their employers or teen programs they attended several decades ago. [psychopaths? several decades ago?] There IS no reasoning going on, and turning to that board for advice is masochistic. [only to those who find the truth hard to hear.] The owner of the site, Ginger Warbis, clearly damaged way too many brain cells back in her druggie days. [Druggie days?] Leslie, they are just laughing at your predicament with your son and are gleeful that you are disappointed in the results of his treatment. The things you WON'T find on Fornits- compassion, any knowledge about parenting [this is just laughable coming from a parent who hired her parenting done], rational analysis of programs and respectful dialogue. The good news is that the true nature of the forum is so obvious that one quick look sends anyone with any sense of logic running the other way. [Except Karen, who is obsessed with dropping by regularly to put in an anonymous slam or two.] The posters are there to amuse each other, which really undermines the alleged purpose of exposing abusive or unethical teen programs.