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« on: June 18, 2006, 01:44:00 PM »
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Jane- you are correct. A contract only works if you have something they want- i.e. if you are paying for their education, car, etc. If they don't need you for anything but a roof and food, they will be inclined to take their chances.
Leslie- another suggestion. Stay away from Fornits. You are torturing yourself by posting there and it isn't going to help you.
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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2006, 02:09:00 PM »
:rofl:  :rofl:

yeah, she did learn her lesson didnt she!
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2006, 02:13:00 PM »
My old ex had a contract. I kept offering to get it renegotated for her. But she wouldent let me. Youth tend to sign whatever they are presented without reading it, and without trying to get something for them selfs in it. I'm not a lawyer, and some one that is please correct me if I'm wrong, but these contracts are of dubious legality and not really binding. They are signed under duress and can't really be enforced. ( Ex. "Do this or I will kick you out" What judge would enfoce that on a youth?)

P.S. I finally figgured out how to type my pass word on this key board
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our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2006, 02:47:00 PM »
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yeah, she did learn her lesson didnt she! "


She'll never learn.  I told you:  it's a compulsion, a sickness with her to control everything around her.  Typical program parent control freak who not interested in knowing why her kid isn't doing well, just controlling his every thought and action.

It truly is a sickness.
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2006, 04:45:00 PM »
The familial contracts I'm aware of are not legal documents. Parent and child arrive at some agreements. Those agreements are put in contract form and all parties sign it.
It can be useful in terms of remembering what the agreements were....but,
It was fairly useless in my kids situation because dad and step-mom didn't keep their agreements.
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« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2006, 05:02:00 PM »
Thank you deborah, your a darling.  :grin:
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2006, 05:15:00 PM »
You're welcome sweetie.

One thing I forgot to mention- the contract mention in the first post sounds more like the type in which the parent lays out all the agreements (read 'rules') and makes no consessions.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2006, 04:32:00 PM »
Okay, what is with these program parents, that they can't see their own humanity and flaws. Karen, would you defend your comments below as being 'mature' and 'respectful', that which you claim is lacking here? Your key words are Pretentious and Double-standard.

Re: Fornits. I had this silly notion that one could engage in logical discussion and perhaps share some things from a parent's viewpoint. That isn't the way it works. That forum consists mainly of psychopaths who want to punish parents for how they were treated by their own parents, their employers or teen programs they attended several decades ago. [psychopaths? several decades ago?] There IS no reasoning going on, and turning to that board for advice is masochistic. [only to those who find the truth hard to hear.] The owner of the site, Ginger Warbis, clearly damaged way too many brain cells back in her druggie days. [Druggie days?] Leslie, they are just laughing at your predicament with your son and are gleeful that you are disappointed in the results of his treatment. The things you WON'T find on Fornits- compassion, any knowledge about parenting [this is just laughable coming from a parent who hired her parenting done], rational analysis of programs and respectful dialogue. The good news is that the true nature of the forum is so obvious that one quick look sends anyone with any sense of logic running the other way. [Except Karen, who is obsessed with dropping by regularly to put in an anonymous slam or two.] The posters are there to amuse each other, which really undermines the alleged purpose of exposing abusive or unethical teen programs.
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2006, 12:47:00 AM »
Poor Leslie. She posted on ST that her son "graduated" from his SCHOOL, and on his home visit was staying out until 2-3AM and she found POT in his pants. Guess his year-long-stay at this well-chosen facility just didn't work out, huh? Glad this kid is 18.
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2006, 08:39:00 AM »
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"Poor Leslie. She posted on ST that her son "graduated" from his SCHOOL, and on his home visit was staying out until 2-3AM and she found POT in his pants. Guess his year-long-stay at this well-chosen facility just didn't work out, huh? Glad this kid is 18."


He never "got it."  He must not have "worked the program."  He probably was a "get by" who never "invested in the program."  :roll:
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2006, 09:09:00 AM »
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Lesley- didn't you have a home contract before he came home? The expected chores and the consequences should have been spelled out. Is he using your car? If so, this privilege should be taken away until he does the chores. You have a right to impose a curfew, too. Are you drug testing him? It sounds to me like he is walking all over you, which can only happen if you allow it.  
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Another parenting gem from Karen, the ulta-controlling uber-parent....
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2006, 09:14:00 AM »
Now Karen's an MD that makes med recommendations by using the parent's internet postings.  How bizarre.  And how very Karen-like to be the answer to everyone's problems.

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While Paxil is the best drug for some people, it CAN have some very negative side effects, including making you very lethargic. She might be much better off on Lexapro, but it might be a little out of your control for now.....
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2006, 09:41:00 AM »
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  posted June 02, 2006 07:01 AM                        
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I have had to change my ID on this forum several times due to harrassment by Fornits posters. I started as KareninDallas, then changed to HStreet and now RandomWalk. I have gotten some PMs asking me about it, so I am posting this publicly.
So-it's me, guys, and the reasons for the change had nothing to do with this forum, of course. Be careful....
Karen  

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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2006, 09:52:00 AM »
Where does it say she found pot in his pants? Oh, wait. IT doesn't.
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2006, 09:56:00 AM »
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Lesley- didn't you have a home contract before he came home? The expected chores and the consequences should have been spelled out. Is he using your car? If so, this privilege should be taken away until he does the chores. You have a right to impose a curfew, too. Are you drug testing him? It sounds to me like he is walking all over you, which can only happen if you allow it.  

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Another parenting gem from Karen, the ulta-controlling uber-parent...."


Please tell me what she should have said.  This seems reasonable to me.  Actions-consequences- what's so bad about that?
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