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« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2005, 11:03:00 PM »
I knock the Stepcult because I think it degrades those who fall into it's clutches.  As a humanist, I find it's self-limiting premise to be offensive.  As a human being, I find it aesthetically offensive.  It does more harm than good, and, as a cult, it is more insidious than Scientology.  It has other religions giving up space for it's recruiting drives ("meetings"), something even Scientology has yet to do, and it has infiltrated the justice system to the point where folks face jail time if they refuse indoctrination, again, something Scientology has yet to do.  It's methods are ineffective, based on fallacious assumptions, and it is detrimental to other legitimate means of recovery from addiction simply by the fact of it's own cancerous growth.  It has overshadowed other methods, even had it's practitioners sweep knowledge of other, legitimate techniques under the rug, so that it can continue the deception that it has been perpetrating since it's inception.
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« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2005, 12:04:00 AM »
:nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:  :nworthy:

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« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2005, 12:56:00 AM »
Sophie- that sounds like pretty heavy stuff for a teenager!  If you don't mind answering, what drug was it that you were using, or "addicted" to?  

I'm just real skeptical of any teenager who says they have a drug addiction.  Most of them can barely sit through a movie without getting bored.
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« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2005, 07:59:00 AM »
Well, RTP, I respect that this is your opinion and thank dog we all can have one and share it freely.

But since you hae shared it I'll comment on it. It is a broad-brush sweeping generalization and frankly doesn't ring true with anything I've experienced and I've been going to "stepcult" meetings for nigh 17 years now.

The whole business of sending DWIs to meetings is totally against the traditions, and good groups know this. They won't sign slips there. But AA or NA cannot tell law enforcement not to send people there.

There's no little man behind the curtain, guys.

Oh and it offends your aestheitcs? Puleez. Who gives a fuck? The art of Jackson Pollack offends mine. How could that possibily be relevant at all here?

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« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2005, 09:53:00 AM »
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as a cult, it is more insidious than Scientology. It has other religions giving up space for it's recruiting drives ("meetings"), something even Scientology has yet to do, and it has infiltrated the justice system to the point where folks face jail time if they refuse indoctrination, again, something Scientology has yet to do.

Nope, that's objective fact, not opinion.

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Oh and it offends your aestheitcs? Puleez. Who gives a fuck? The art of Jackson Pollack offends mine. How could that possibily be relevant at all here?


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« Reply #50 on: September 14, 2005, 06:42:00 PM »
considering that i'd already spent 14mo. in N.C. state school for boys,and 2 stints in "mental health" facilies, I always thought it was somekinda weak-assed boo-game.I was a staff trainee in st.pete/gandy and was supposed to go to sorry-sota, but one of the big ephiphanies [sp] of my life happened,so I said fuck it.My Dad always said I had a gypsy soul. I'm glad I did'nt get to be any bodys tormenter.It's been 26 years since my "program" I've moved along . I used to resent straight for not sending me to detox first as I was real dopesick for a while. But that was then,ya'know.
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